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Short question,..

If America doesn't pull out of its spending/debt situation, what's the prognosis?

By that, I mean, what will happen, in your opinion?

I can see the crash coming,...and as far as the monetary situation is concerned, that's easy enough to envision.

But there's several scenarios which a person can interpolate upon concerning the post crash circumstances.

I'll tell ya straight up,...I have no idea.

I may or may not post again in this thread,..we'll see how it goes.

I just want to see what others have to say on the matter.

I'll be sitting here reading.

IMO it will look a lot like the great depression. Some areas hit very hard, some will only see the devestation on TV. Several currencies in circulation, peso's, euro's, precious metals, towns issuing their own currency. Wont quite be post apocalyptic but will be hard on lots of people. Tent cities as far as the eye can see and lots and lots of people standing in line waiting for their daily goverment hand out.

well, i'm in perfect alignment with you, in that i don't have a single solitary idea either.

as has been stated for years, there's more to a livelihood on this earth than just pure money. we have physical assets in which we reside, as a country.

we have fisheries, metallurgy, agriculture, and forestry as a day to day reality. we have housing, roads, hospitals, schools, you name it. and we have the indomitable human spirit.

in addition, some have heaven, hell, purgatory, or reincarnation in some combination.

beyond that, the coming end to the age of oil is probably the best blessing humandkind has ever received. cheap oil has brought us a lot of good things, but has cost us a ton as well.

as we move further into the post-modern era we're beginning to realize something went oh so wrong. we're being given the opportunity to sort it all out, and begin again.

Geez Louise Bristoe, on a Monday ?


No idea either but I am of the opinion (if something on a large scale were to happen), the cleavage lines will be drawn with family, friends, and ethnic background... those with whom we have the most in common and comfortable with.

The transportion/supply lines or lack there of, will determine a lot of the rest.

I foresee a global depresion.
Economies all over getting hit.
America will stil be great.
We have great land, great resources and even greater people.

But all curency will soon be worth squat.

The only thing that will matter is raw material.
Oil, coal, iron.
And the ability to pound it into swords.

Inner city people are not going to see it coming and will not survive it long. They will kill each other off for basic wants. They will be like rats. Those living in rural areas will be isolated and fend for themselves for awhile but eventually they will be taken over and bled dry and forced to toil in the fields by the Marxists Army to make them grow spuds to feed the army. The people living in the bush will not have the nice things we have today, like INet and TV but will survive well and the quality of life will go up as the standard of living goes down.

Those in the Marxists Army will be on a mission to kill off their own folks to serve their masters. They will take orders and be proud to do so. It is about to get ugly but it can't continue like it is. There has to be a day of reckoning because of the way society has been living beyond its means.

Bush ninjas will die without their handouts.

Great question. Nobody knows. I can think of some sort of Biblical scenario. Some claim the Bible doesn't mention America in the end time prophecies, while others claim America is Mystery Babylon. Anybody with eyes to see can see things certainly falling into place for the bankers to make a play for a cashless society. The Devil has his own plans which his minions are not always privy to. The big boys, of course, want cashless so that all transactions can be monitored, recorded and tracked. Ultimately that means taxation but it also has other connotations. So you have possible religious scenarios mingling with and separate from secular scenarios.

There is no doubt that many multi national corporate types simply want America out of the way thinking we have too much freedom and wealth for a bunch of serfs. I think they also fear our people because in the past, we have risen up and spoilt the plans of what amounted to globalists, in the past.

Nobody likes hearing me speak on the War Between the States, but there are many parallels today. A President that nobody likes, laws that nobody likes, a minority that some elitists seem determined to assimilate into our society whether the majority likes it or not. Terrorism against our people, both here and abroad, some of it sponsored by our own government. Blatant ignoring by our government, of the law of the land, etc. All this powderkeg needs is a match or a spark. IMO a minority (radical abolitionists) used pretexts to start the WBTS and bring about radical social and economic change to our country, disenfranchising a whole large group of people. Anybody that doesn't think that sounds terribly and frighteningly like today's headlines, just isn't looking and listening. That or they are so scared they are ignoring blatant facts while clinging to comforting fictions rooted in a mythic past.

It will not be like the last depression. the people then were hard working dedicated , god fearing americans. the people now are take all you can get without doing any work at all and are mostly not americans.

so this time around you will be killed if you have anything of value such as food and it will be taken from you and fed to the sick, lame and lazy .

A lot will depend on whether white people will get off their collective asses, quit listening to lies and being craven cowards and [bleep] defend themselves. Giving women the vote was a terrible thing.

there was a reason that the mighty roman empire didn't conqurer scotland.

they built a wall in the north of England to wall off the scotti to prevent constant attacks.

wonder why they didn't engage the scotti?

later, they abandoned england, as being indefensible.

we're looking at abandoning post-modern America as being indefensible.

I have faith that real americans will pull this country out of the hole. I'm to young not to have some hope to hold on to I just hope I'm right.

I believe the governments of the world will simply let inflation take hold to make their collective debts manageable.



The end result will be what is always has been. The Goldman Sach's, JPM's of the world will control more wealth and power and the regular working guy will take it up the azz as his buying power shrinks and his standard of living goes to hell. Of course, 50 years from now, there will be a whole new set of idiots posting here telling a new set of dummies why we need to elect the 'Right' politicians to cure the problem.

Martial law, wage freezes, price controls... basically a war footing for the economy. Then, an attempted usurping of the constitution, most likely by the militant nutcase religious right, but certainly coming from the weenie left in the form of nationalization etc is a possibility too.

As evidenced right here on this forum, the religious right is primed and ready to roll and, IMHO, present the greatest "active" danger to America as we know it. The socialist-leaning left are a more passive, creeping threat.

I'll just vacation at the local lakes on the pontoon. There will be good fishing.

Marxist Armies roughshodding potato plantations ?

On the first page yet?

...oh hell, why not?

I think Hubert is close to the truth here. During The Depression there was still a strong work ethic in the vast majority of the populace that doesn't exist today. We have too many used to a free ride for too long and if they could be changed they would already have been changed for the most part.

Think Escape from LA.. without Kurt Russel..

If you are that young, then you are young enough to set yourself up good and not be dependant on others.

What is your definition of a "real american"? John Wayne was in the movies not in real life. Heros are created by others with a reason to fool you. Mostly to keep you faithful and keep you paying for their ways. Whether they be your boss or govt agent what they want most is to keep you working for them. The harder you work the better you can support them.

Like the British Empire and then the Soviet Union before - there will start to be a military exodus whereby troops will come home and foreign bases will be closed at an ever accelerating rate.

Defense will become less about the projection of influence around the world - and more about actually defending American soil from domestic threats..

Military spending will increase for special ops and drones - but we'll see far less in the way of foreign troop deployment.

If military spending goes from exceeding the next 17 countries combined, to perhaps only outspending the next two or three combined - economic prosperity will return.