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#6184860 - 02/16/12 05:59 PM 6.5 creedmoor
johnnyappleseed Offline
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Registered: 07/21/03
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i've got the long range bug and i'm fixin' to get a 1000 yard scope

i need a 1000 yard rifle to go with it

i don't think my 25 06 will cut the mustard much past 500 yards

i'm talking hunting deer, antelope, coyotes and probably a bunch of rock targets

i may never take a 1000 yard shot on a game animal but i need something with mild recoil that'll get out that far

looks like the 6.5 creedmoor might get the job done

what do you think?

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#6189686 - 02/17/12 10:53 PM Re: 6.5 creedmoor [Re: johnnyappleseed]
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Looks like for what you would like to do, the Creedmoor isn`t getting too much love in the response dept.

Hunting deer, the lopes, coyotes and for shooting rocks the 6.5 Creed is fine. Even though you may never take a 1,000 yard kill shot, you would consider a kill shot out to 900-1000 yards? Even if properly scoped, I wouldn`t touch a 900-1000 yard kill shot using a 6.5 Creedmoor on any game. And I don`t even own a 6.5mm. Rock or paper targets out a 1000 yards is fine.

However, Wayne Van Zwoll nailed a bull elk with one shot using a 6.5 Creedmoor at 603 yards using a 129 gr A-Max. That video was posted on here quite a few months ago. But at 750-800-900-1000 yards?

Imo, if you would like to better accomplish what you describe, then you might consider the more powerful 264 Win or 7RM and deal with more recoil if you choose not to put a brake on it. Padded shooting vests and slip on recoil pads work very well to reduce felt recoil.

If I were you, I`d go with a more powerful cartridge that better does what I wanted, and I`d also buy what is necessary to help reduce the felt recoil.
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#6195262 - 02/19/12 03:32 PM Re: 6.5 creedmoor [Re: bigsqueeze]
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Originally Posted By: bigsqueeze
And I don`t even own a 6.5mm.

???
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#6195415 - 02/19/12 04:10 PM Re: 6.5 creedmoor [Re: doubletap]
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Originally Posted By: doubletap
Originally Posted By: bigsqueeze
And I don`t even own a 6.5mm.

???
..........???........So???.......You don`t have to own a particular cartridge in order to formulate downrange performance opinions when comparing rounds of the same caliber diameter which have different power levels.

"External ballistics tables" that give all the necessary retained downrange #s (velocities, energies, trajectories), work pretty good.

For the OP`s purpose "if" any extennnnnnded range hunting were to occur, my first 6.5mm cartridge choice would not be the Creedmoor. Using the same 6.5mm bullets and weights, I`d rather have a 264 Win Mag, maybe go with a 270 WSM, or with a 7RM.
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#6197703 - 02/20/12 08:37 AM Re: 6.5 creedmoor [Re: bigsqueeze]
Seafire Offline
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Get a 260 Rem.. and make life easier... a Creedmore won't give you anything a 260 Rem won't...

if that isn't up to what you need, then go with a 6.5/06 or 264 Mag...

6.5 Creedmore is just a "me Too!" product...

then of course the old 6.5 x 55 has been around for eternity, and in modern rifles, long actions, a handloaded Swede will do what on 6.5/06 case will do also...

an 06 case has to yield capacity to seat the bullet to magazine length...where as a Swede, a bullet can be seated long... in the long run they are a wash...
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#6198704 - 02/20/12 01:22 PM Re: 6.5 creedmoor [Re: bigsqueeze]
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Originally Posted By: bigsqueeze
..........???........So???.......You don`t have to own a particular cartridge in order to formulate downrange performance opinions when comparing rounds of the same caliber diameter which have different power levels.

"External ballistics tables" that give all the necessary retained downrange #s (velocities, energies, trajectories), work pretty good.
We all know that your opinions come with zero experience bigliar. Keep reading about what things will and will not do; it'd be a shame for you to muddy the waters with reality...
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#6198774 - 02/20/12 01:41 PM Re: 6.5 creedmoor [Re: 406_SBC]
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Originally Posted By: 406_SBC
Originally Posted By: bigsqueeze
..........???........So???.......You don`t have to own a particular cartridge in order to formulate downrange performance opinions when comparing rounds of the same caliber diameter which have different power levels.

"External ballistics tables" that give all the necessary retained downrange #s (velocities, energies, trajectories), work pretty good.
We all know that your opinions come with zero experience bigliar. Keep reading about what things will and will not do; it'd be a shame for you to muddy the waters with reality...
......Here comes 406 trashing another thread....The "big liar" to you, is more than willing to show you first hand "my experiences" among a few other things... wink

Too bad that you are just too "damned cowardly" to accept my proposal, whereas by me accepting yours, gives you all of the convenience, with no risk, and certainly doesn`t interrupt your precious schedule.

The term "coward" certainly defines you well.
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#6198912 - 02/20/12 02:21 PM Re: 6.5 creedmoor [Re: bigsqueeze]
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bigliar...not trashing you or the thread, just can't keep from commenting on your imagination. You've got all kinds of opinions but not one of them is derived in reality nor is anyone one them based on your experience outside of your dreams.

You sir are the coward. You want to set me straight by me paying for everything and then you on your word will reimburse my expenses if I can find you in So. Cal. You are a fool's fool. I'll still be in ANC on Tuesday of next week...

Keep posting about that which you have not the first clue, regurgitate ballistics charts and then guess freely as to supposed external abilities; it's entertainment for us all.
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#6199223 - 02/20/12 03:43 PM Re: 6.5 creedmoor [Re: 406_SBC]
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Originally Posted By: 406_SBC
bigliar...not trashing you or the thread, just can't keep from commenting on your imagination. You've got all kinds of opinions but not one of them is derived in reality nor is anyone one them based on your experience outside of your dreams.

You sir are the coward. You want to set me straight by me paying for everything and then you on your word will reimburse my expenses if I can find you in So. Cal. You are a fool's fool. I'll still be in ANC on Tuesday of next week...

Keep posting about that which you have not the first clue, regurgitate ballistics charts and then guess freely as to supposed external abilities; it's entertainment for us all.
.............Not trashing me? Oh?? Then what would you call it then?

Yep! You cannot seem to refrain yourself.

Oh yeah! Just like I have your word that you`ll be in ANC at a certain time and on a certain date? Yeah sure! And you`ll re-arrange my busy schedule for me there too where I lose hundreds of dollars per day just to fly up on "your" damned word?

A coward? Me? Why sure I am! You always seem to know what you`re talking about!

Since "bigliar" and now "coward" seems to be your favorite references for me, and since I am such a "big liar" as well as now a "coward",,,,you`re always welcome to come down here and test your theories. The real truth is, you`ll be damn lucky to get through the last syllable of those two words if you were to ever get the opportunity to express yourself in person with me. You`ll be on the ground real fast...That my friend is an absolute guarantee. Not a threat, but a damned fact.

You can remain in ANC until hell freezes over and keep on telling me when you`ll be there. Nevertheless, your proposal strictly favors your conveniences. I am under working contracts and scheduling obligations that are well cemented ahead of time. The people I teach also have other obligations which work around my class scheduling. You are asking me to re-arrange and disrupt the schedule of alot of people, whereas you give up nothing or any in-conveniences where any scheduling is concerned??

If you are so damned possessed and hell bent on proving yourself, proving your alter ego, and proving yourself to this forum, while at the same time disproving or discrediting me all across the board, then the burden of proof rests with you. I have made my proposal clear to you and that is the best that I intend to offer.

If ever in a face to face,,,we`ll see who the true coward really is. Nose to nose, I will give the opportunty to express yourself. If you choose to express yourself the same way directly to my face in person as you do from a keyboard, your expressions will be extremely brief.

So what next there big man? You just gonna keep following me around from post to post on this forum, or do you really want to take your best whack at me? Hmmmm?

I told you that I will mail you a copy of your cashiers check re-inmbursing you for the correct amount of your round trip plane expenses, after you mail to me copies all of your info and flight information proving that you paid for your tickets. That cashiers check will be on my possession waiting for you, and will be shown to you after you de-plane and before going any further.

And you want me to just drop everything, fly 3500-4000 miles one way and meet you in ANC, when you are conveniently there on your own business anyway?

Such a "convenient" deal,,,,,,,,,,,,for you.

Nope! You can come down here. I`ll be very co-operative with you in order to test your theories. First, you can see an album or albums, and then secondly by your own choice to find out who the true coward really is between us.
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#6199266 - 02/20/12 03:56 PM Re: 6.5 creedmoor [Re: 406_SBC]
Burleyboy Offline
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The Creedmoor looks like a decent round to me. I almost went with it but chose to have mine chambered in 6.5x47 Lapua instead.

If you're going with a factory gun most creedmoors have an 8 twist which will allow you to run the long heavies. It also has some reasonably price factory ammo if you don't load. I'm not sure I'd use it a 1000 on deer unless I thought the bullet would still expand at that low of velocity. For a soft high BC bullet the 140 Amax would be worth a look. I also like the VLD hunting bullets.

I think impact velocity and bullet construction are more important than energy. I like to see my impact velocity at 1800 or above but I've seen the amax expand at 1600.

I've shot deer with a 260 and it works well. A creedmoor is same performance wise. Both are awesome but that being said my long range deer gun is a 264 win mag and my 243 with 105's hangs pretty nicely with my 260 at long range. But the 243 is a custom with an 8 twist.

And, don't be afraid to look at the 7-08 too. My factory twisted 700's will run the 162 Amax at 2700fps over H4350 loaded to mag length.
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Edited by Burleyboy (02/20/12 04:03 PM)

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