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Heck ya shapnel. Let me guess on the last 38-55?
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Nope it's my grizzly killin' 25-35...
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It is a very real fact that it could happen. The bears are where birds sonder on the easten frunt.
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It is a very real fact that it could happen. The bears are where birds sonder on the easten frunt. +1 on that. Every time I've found turkeys I've gone and bought a turkey tag and returned to find bears have run them off. Usually the bears are still there.
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Found this one while turkey hunting with no bear tag, or it would have been on the wall by now...
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They aren't that hard to kill if you get inside 30 yards.
There are a llot of them in Oregon on both sides right now so getting one isn't real hard. Getting the huge trophy birds is hard but they taste like sawdust.
I saw one last year I am still dreaming about though. Didn't have a shotgun with me as it happened.
Somewhere around 6's, 5's or 4's work. I use a 20 or a 12. It depends on what I have with me.
The 2 3/4" Federal Premium #4 Turkey load did it from my 12 gauge Ithaca with a plain full choke last year.
I took my first one with a single barrel 20 gauge and 6's.
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For the last decade I've done most of my spring turkey hunting with a Sauer 12-gauge side-by-side made just before WWII. It's choked the typical German tight and tighter, with 2-3/4" chambers.
Mostly I've used 1-1/4 ounces of #5 shot, either lead or Bismuth, depending on regulations, and have not had any trouble taking gobblers out to 45 yards. My last one was one of the bigger-than-a-pigeon Montana Merriams that weighed 19-1/2 pounds with the guts out, taken last spring.
This spring Eileen and I are going to try to do a combo bear/bird hunt on the west side of the divide, using our German combo guns. Mine is a Sauer drilling 16x16x6.5x57R, while hers is a no-name over-under 16/9.3x72R. Eileen usually uses a 20-gauge but likes the combo gun she decided to step up a little.
In Montana's fall season we shoot 'em with whatever's handy. The .22 Hornet is ideal, but they also die from .270 injection.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
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Blackheart He's just an extension of steelheads Large intestin.
He's my new buddy I guess. I have no doubts your large intestine has seen more cock than a Perdue chicken farm.
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I found a 180 gr Ballistic tip, launched from a Krag, to put them down decisively. Due to the distance, and the open sights I took a body shot, thinking the relatively slow velocity wouldn't tear up a lot of meat. Wrong OTH I helped one guy look for a turkey that he'd shot in the neck with a .270. Where the bird was shot we found bloody grain from a blown up crop spread over a 5 foot circle, then a blood trail a blnd man could follow for 30 yards, then it just disappeared. The hunter was dumbfounded the bird got away. I keep wondering if a bobcat or lion grabbed it and carried it off. It should have been DRT. It's also interesting to think about something that will decisively kill deer, yet not tear up meat on turkey. I'm told a .54 cal round ball will do it. A drilling found be a fun handloading exercise, too...
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Dat was mean...did I forget to mention I weigh 780 lbs...? So you have trimmed down.
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tex n cal,
Oh, I know about those 180 Ballistic Tips in the .30-40! I once shot a prairie dog at around 220 yards with a 180 BT from a High Wall reproduction rifle in .30-40, and the bullet left a 1" exit hole!. Now, it was a big dog (the reason I could hit it at over 200 with iron sights) but still...
I have shot a few wurkeys with deer rifles right up the wazoo when they were facing away, and that placement works pretty well. The bullet does most of the damage where Thanksgiving turkeys are traditionally filled with dressing.
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Nope it's my grizzly killin' 25-35... I smell a story here.......
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Blackheart He's just an extension of steelheads Large intestin.
He's my new buddy I guess. I have no doubts your large intestine has seen more cock than a Perdue chicken farm. You two need to grow-the-phugg-up.
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turkey and elk both can't be killed with "ordinary" stuff
magnums are a must........bs
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To me when calling them in to 25 yards or less and they gobble.They seem to be a lot larger than whatever I am carrying. I have a buddy that shot 2 gobblers with 1 shot out of a Winchester 97 pump at 20 yards. It took him a minute to get his senses back after the shot,I don't know where he went but he was gone.He was using 23/4 no.5 shot. Full choke.
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Yes to the distance question. The 3 1/2 12's and 10's in no 6 throw around 500 pellets. combine that with an ultra tight choke and you gain considerable distance. Yep. And it's wise not to have your shoulder pressed snuggly against a tree when touching off a 3 1/2 inch turkey load.
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If you need that kind of distance, you might as well use a rifle. My last 20 have been killed with a 20 gauge. 2 of 'em shot over 40 yards. What does it take? Put a head shot on 'em inside of 30 yards with just about anything you got laying around. Then fire up the grill.
I should have just bought a [bleep] T3...
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Not being a turkey hunter, I've been surprised to read so many stories in the "Worst Recoil" thread about guys getting creamed by 12 gauges shooting 3 1/2" shells at turkeys. Will a 2 3/4" shell not get it done? Or, does a 3 1/2" buy you an appreciable amount of range?
Just curious,
FC 2 3/4's work just fine as does 3"....I only use and used the big guys like 3" and 3.5" and the sometime shoulder snapping 10 Gauge for Geese.Check your choke so it isn't spray and prey(if it is adjustable) and the 12 gauges of old are just fine for turkey's. Jayco
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