I have a license to hntin the State forests here. Most of the game is smallish; rabbits, foxes, goats, the very odd pig, wild dogs and every blue moon a deer wanders in, usually fallow which are a reasonably light bodied animal.
Rather than be overgunned in thsoe forests which don't usually see deer, I plan to use my 223. I wouldn't want to pass up a shot on a deer if a suicidal one wandered my way.
60Gn Partitions were the first thing I thought of, then 70Gn Speers. The Swift Sirocco 75Gn also sounds good.
I would probably shoot mainly 55Gns bullets and carry a few heavy bullet loads in my pocket.
The WInchester Law Enforcement Ranger 223 ammo has a 60Gn Partition and this ammo is not much dearer that the bullet costs. When I got the rifle I was given a heap of ammo with target bullets, all 69gns or heavier and the rifle liked them.
I had a box of 223 American Eagles (55Gn) the rifle didn't like these at all, spat out a 2 1/2" group!
I think if the 60Gn partitions work I might just use these for everything and leave the 55Gn bullets for my 222 and 22/250 Remington 788s.
Last edited by FourFingersofDeath; 03/27/12.
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Fallow deer: "Adult bucks are 140�160 cm long and 85�95 cm shoulder height, and 70-100 kg in weight; does are 130�150 cm long and 75�85 cm shoulder height, and 40-50 kg in weight. Fawns are born in spring at about 30 cm and weigh around 4.5 kg. The life span is around 12�16 years."
100 kg is 220 pounds. That's as big as a big lower 48 Whitetail !
If I had to use a 223, it would be the 60 gr partition or 70gr TSX and use shoulder shots. (break em' down on the spot).
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I have a CZ 527 carbine with a 18 inch barrel and was concerned the Federal premium with 60 grain partition wouls stabilize in the short barrel and slow(1 in 12 twist)I shot the rifle up to 150 yards and the load shot less than 2 inches at 150 with a 2 power heavy duplex scope ! This makes me believe that this load would satbilize in a longer barrel with faster twist.I have no experience with the Winchester load you speak of. I have never used the load on any game animal as I just got the rifle a few months ago and our hunting season is long over But there are quite a few threads that mention the 60 grain partition for Game animals and it has good reports. Look for 223 ammo for deer,223 for deer in either a search or in the forums them selves and perhaps you can find more info on this. Craig
I was down at the local gunshop and they had boxes of Barnes 62Gn TX BTs.
Plumb nasty looking bullets. After discount, exactly $1.00 per bullet (ouch!).
They recommend a twist of 1:7" to 1:9", so my 1:8" is right on the money. These are a bit lighter than the Swift, but with the bullet construction, length and twist, they should drill deep enough to put venison in the freezer.
Last edited by FourFingersofDeath; 03/29/12. Reason: clarification was needed.
"I'll help you down the trail and proud to!" Rooster Cogburn.
I was down at the local gunshop and they had boxes of Barnes 62Gn TX BTs.
Plumb nasty looking bullets. After discount, exactly $1.00 per bullet (ouch!).
They recommend a twist of 1:7" to 1:9", so my 1:8" is right on the money. These are a bit lighter than the Swift, but with the bullet construction, length and twist, they should drill deep enough to put venison in the freezer.
The do with aplomb! You need to find a new place to buy bullets
The 52 gr TSX also works well in a 222 for deer (where legal)
Hey NSAQAM, Larry is very "IN", LOL You also dishonor the 28th division by using the unit patch as an insult. As for the liar, welcher Bricktop, his day is fast approaching. Coward trolls won't accept PMs. How's the phantom "campfire" coming ?
Federal Barrier Blind 62gr Govt. load. Same/same as the 62gr Fusions. 80 yards quartering to. Entered just behind shoulder on near side and was found in the stomach. Around 18 inches of penetration. Shot another at 174 yards with it through both shoulders the day prior. Of course that deer collapsed.
Fallow deer: "Adult bucks are 140�160 cm long and 85�95 cm shoulder height, and 70-100 kg in weight; does are 130�150 cm long and 75�85 cm shoulder height, and 40-50 kg in weight. Fawns are born in spring at about 30 cm and weigh around 4.5 kg. The life span is around 12�16 years."
100 kg is 220 pounds. That's as big as a big lower 48 Whitetail !
If I had to use a 223, it would be the 60 gr partition or 70gr TSX and use shoulder shots. (break em' down on the spot).
60 gr. NPT, yes.
70 TSX, no.
That bullet needs way more speed to perform than the .222 can dish out. Go lite for caliber with monometals and push hard. I'd shoot a 50 TSX as hard as it would go, or stick with the NPT.