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Ahhhh Fate, she be a funny wench :-)
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Ruger Compacts have a 16.5" barrel.  My offspring and significant other have been slinging 120s and 140s into ungulates of various flavors at an alarming rate, from that very model, for more than a couple years without issue. Of course such a setup would never work for a grown man. Its muzzle velocity is much to low and muzzle blast far to great to bear for anyone who knows better. 
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Coyote - is the barrel length 18" with that one? If so, you might want to think twice, there will be some muzzle blast with that baby. Just something to consider. I didn't measure the barrel, but as someone pointed out, 16.5" would be correct for a Compact. Yup, I expect some bark and blast, but it would be a hunter and wouldn't get shot that much. Would probably look for a lighter stock, the point being a very light, moderate recoil rifle for hiking the mountains with. A Rem M7 in .260 Rem or 7mm-08 would work, too.
Coyote Hunter - NRA Patriot Life, NRA Whittington Center Life, GOA, DAD - and I VOTE!
No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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I did all the calculations while examining those two cartridges a while back. I wanted the perfect ultra-lightweight mountain rifle to pack when I hunt in BC's mountain country. For everything from the smallest coastal deer - to the biggest northern moose, and everything BC has in between those two. After months of comparing ballistic coeffecients, sectional densities, loading densities, barrel twists, bullet weights, etc. I came to a conclusion. The 260 Remington was the best cartridge for such a rifle. I put in my order. Months later - they still couldn't get the rifle in that I wanted. But, it was mentioned that they had a 7mm-08 in the same rifle (1st generation Remington Ti) ready to ship. I went back to my calculations, and found a few errors in my original cartridge comparison. The 7mm-08 was, in fact, the ideal cartridge for my mountain rifle. I placed my new order.  LOL
Coyote Hunter - NRA Patriot Life, NRA Whittington Center Life, GOA, DAD - and I VOTE!
No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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If you decide to get rid of the walnut stock, I'd be interested in buying, or trading a ruger factory UL syn stock for it. Don
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Brinky, I am pretty sure the Remington 673 was made in 6.5 Rem Mag a few years ago.
Maybe you can find one.
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Our God reigns.
Harrumph!!!
I often use quick reply. My posts are not directed toward any specific person unless I mention them by name.
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As with cars, there's no substitute for cubic inches. Why not get a .308?
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As with cars, better gas mileage.
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Cost per shot is less with the .308. Quite a bit less. I can't tell any difference in the recoil until I get down to the .243. Still whatever blows your skirt up.
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Please explain how shooting a .308 is cheaper than shooting a .260/7-08?
Aim for the exit hole.
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Go to Walmart or Bass Pro Shop and price the ammo. .308 is $5.00 to $10.00 cheaper, that is if you can even find 7MM-08 or .260. Even if you reload the components are cheaper, and .308 brass is frequently free for the asking. I'm just sayin'.
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I'm talking recoil, which is less with lighter bullets used in either the 7-08 or the .260. You can't cheat physics, even if you say you can't feel the difference.
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I've never had a problem seeing store ammo for the .260 nor the 7-08 and I don't recall it being more expensive than .308. I'm not sure since I don't use store bought ammo.
But then, if you're shooting store bought ammo and looking to do things on the cheap, get a 30-06 and load up on the specials that Wally has after the season's over.
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I'm talking recoil, which is less with lighter bullets used in either the 7-08 or the .260. You can't cheat physics, even if you say you can't feel the difference. If you can't feel the difference (and you cant), it's a moot point. As I mentioned .308 reloading components are cheaper. I guess there are reasons for the .260 and the 7mm-08, but i don't know what they are.
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Midway puts 6.5 cal. 120 grain Speer Hot-Cors on sale for $9.99 per 100 from time to time... They'll even work for loading a 260 Rem  . I've found them to be very effective on deer and speed goats as well. If the 260 Rem brass is too steep for you the 308 Win brass can be necked down free of charge.
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Go to Walmart or Bass Pro Shop and price the ammo. .308 is $5.00 to $10.00 cheaper, Where i live i find this to be true.
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If the 260 Rem brass is too steep for you the 308 Win brass can be necked down free of charge. That will require neck turning. Not fun!
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You could have just left it at that.... The .260 got my vote and my Montana shoots the 120 TSX into little bug-holes. Swampy, take a note: If you shoot deer in the shoulders in stead of the azz, it doesn't take much to put them down. George
�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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You could have just left it at that.... The .260 got my vote and my Montana shoots the 120 TSX into little bug-holes. Swampy, take a note: If you shoot deer in the shoulders in stead of the azz, it doesn't take much to put them down. George It makes perfect sense you'd buy junk in a caliber that makes no sense.
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