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Yes they are good stocks I have had 2. One was a Medalist and yes they are not light...the other is a 1st Gen TI and is a full 12 oz lighter than the factory Rem 700 plastic
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So can a person order a stock and expect it to be a drop-in fit?
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I got one that came on my Model 70 EW 7mm WSM. It seems like a nice stock and I plan on using it this year for hunting before putting the barreled action in a compact edge stock. I'll keep this stock for a 243 AI build, though.
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I have three with a fourth on the way. No troubles with fit at all and accuracy has been great with only minor removal of material in the barrel channel to get a float. I'd love to have a McMillan on every rifle but, for the money, Bell and Carlson fills the bill.
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I have two Carbelites. One I love, the other not so much.
The form they use for the Rem 700 carbelites is a nice stock, or at least, I like it.
The form they use for Ruger 77 MKIIs is a bit clunky and I don't care for mine.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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I have no problem continuing to use them when working with a budget and cannot imagine a scenario where the BC would fail but a Manners or Mcmillan would have saved the day.
Unless your going with an edge fill or something similiar from manners I just dont see a big advantage. I was confident enough that I dropped a surgeon into one of the light weight tacticals and have been very pleased.
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So can a person order a stock and expect it to be a drop-in fit? Mine didn't.
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I had to open the barrel channel bit and work on the aftermarket trigger guard, but it was fun I guess. The others I have helped or done a little sanding was required as well, so not exactly drop in.
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I wouldn't want a drop in.I'd be going for clearance and bedding.
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The Medalist and Carbelite are two completely different animals. The Medalists I have seen were drop in.
I have weighed my Medalists, HS, and McMillans (non-Edge), and they are all about the same. 2-2.5lbs.
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Ive had two B&C Medalist stocks. Both are now gathering dust in my gun room. Both were replaced with McMillan Edge stocks.
'Nuff sed.
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What specific B&C model would fit my Lipseys Ruger 77 stainless RSI 7mm-08?
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Any stock with an aluminum bedding block, hell any factory inletted stock at all, but especially the aluminum BB ones, needs to be machined by the factory to accept all rifles of the type they're meant for. These rifles have size tolerances so the BB must be machined larger than the highest tolerance for the rifle. Especially since aluminum has twice the expansion ratio of steel. If you have a rifle at the low end of the tolerance range you'll have more slop.
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I have a Medalist, a Carbelite, and 5 Ti stocks. All of them were steel bedded and free floated by me and all work very well. Very value for the money and Very good performance for the money.
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Ive had two B&C Medalist stocks. Both are now gathering dust in my gun room. Both were replaced with McMillan Edge stocks.
'Nuff sed. Please elaborate ... Not quite 'nuff said.
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I have 4 carbelites. I'm good with all of them. On a tang safety Ruger M77, I need to do some adjusting to get it together. It reduced the weight of the rifle by almost 1/2 a pound from thr walnut stock. On my M700 Remington Classic, I glass-bedded it, and it's a little lighter than the walnut stock. On my M70 XTR, it's an older B&C stock, and it weighs 4 ounces more than the factory XTR walnut stock.
I'd buy another for a rifle that needed it.
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I have 3 one medialist one from a lvsf and one on my vanguard backcountry. All work much better that a plastic stock. My backcountry stock did crack behind the recoil lug, I have tried to fix it with steel bedding compound and I need to shoot it more to make sure its "fixed".
My medalist is on a 300wby vanguard it's a nice looking stock but feels heavy. It only needed a little bit of fitting for the bolt to get clearence on the left side to fit. My shooting buddy had to do the same thing on his.
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Ive had two B&C Medalist stocks. Both are now gathering dust in my gun room. Both were replaced with McMillan Edge stocks.
'Nuff sed. Please elaborate ... Not quite 'nuff said. Well, allright, since you asked- The B&C Medalist stocks were on a Weatherby Vanguard SA, and a Weatherby MkV .300 Wby. Mag. I found them to have a clunky feel, but my biggest objection was to the floppy forends. The overall fit also left a lot to be desired, IMO. Both were replaced with McMillan Edge stocks, which simply feel better, fit better, look better, are lighter weight, and noticeably stiffer in the forend. In addition, accuracy with both rifles is noticeably better with the McMillan stocks. You get what you pay for, most of the time.....
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Thanks .... been jacking around with the idea of getting one for a varminter ... but may just go the Laminate route. Wieght isn't a big issue for me (other than my own!).
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