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Ive tried quite a few different powders in my sons ARs, anywhere from RE7 to varget and if I had to choose the best all around it'd be RE7.
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Their are no best all around powders only compromises. Why is there a need to inject political biases into an abstract discussion of which powder is better in a .223? I'm a gun nut, however the NRA doesn't dictate my common sense. What has our current president done to curtail current gun laws? Please, don't spout talking point, yet point to real facts. This type of stupidity is exactly why I question the real underlying motives. The NRA thrives under President Obama because of mis-informed, gun-loving bigots! LOL Earl that's real rich.
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Looks like you guy's absolutely nailed the question...with a shotgun blast of powder choices 
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Fortunately the .223 is one of those middle-of-the-road rounds that works well with a LOT of different powders.
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Their are no best all around powders only compromises. Why is there a need to inject political biases into an abstract discussion of which powder is better in a .223? I'm a gun nut, however the NRA doesn't dictate my common sense. What has our current president done to curtail current gun laws? Please, don't spout talking point, yet point to real facts. This type of stupidity is exactly why I question the real underlying motives. The NRA thrives under President Obama because of mis-informed, gun-loving bigots! That disappointMINTS thing is part of a signature. Not related to any thread. You're the one injecting political bias.
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Win 748 and Varget works great for me.
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I like A2230 with 40's, Benchmark with 50's, and H4895 with 60-69's. Reckon some folks have never heard of Fast and Furious.
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I had temperature issues with H-335, though it gave great accuracy and velocity. I switched to H-322 for lack of temperature sensitivity and it is also very accurate. Now I have run out of it and have an 8-pound jug of TAC to go through. X-Terminator also worked very well with 40-50 gr bullets.
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Was just out again, so if this is a repeat that is why...
AR Comp makes my most accurate 223s, even more accurate, with even smaller groups...
and as far as clean, I don't know.. usually after 40 rounds or so in bolt actions, I run a bore snake thru it and keep on going..
with about any powder..
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I'd like to try that AR Comp. What's the heaviest bullets you've run with it, Seafire?
Another one I want to try is Alliant 2000 MR.
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Benchmark. From 50s to 75s.
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I ended up with a bunch of Win 748, so that's what I use. Works great in my heavy barrel 223s shooting 50 and 55 gr spitzers.
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I shoot TAC in my Bushy .223 but I have read a couple of recent articles and found the borescope results from their testing of CFE-223 so interesting that I will get some to try. They clearly showed that the powder prevented copper fowling and even reversed it in the barrels that had it. Refer to your Guns and Ammo from like 2 months ago.
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Benchmark, I run more of it than anything. It's temp stable but still meters well. I run it in my 20" RRA predator pursuit with 50 and 53g vmaxes with great accuracy. I even run it under 75 amaxes from my 223 AI.
It's awesome in a 17 rem and in my 22-250 with 40g NBTs it drives them 4200 fps and 1/4" average groups at 100 yards. My old 6mm even loves it under 55g NBT's at 4000fps.
If I had to narrow my rifle powders down to 3 or 4 Benchmark would stay.
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I shoot TAC in my Bushy .223 but I have read a couple of recent articles and found the borescope results from their testing of CFE-223 so interesting that I will get some to try. They clearly showed that the powder prevented copper fowling and even reversed it in the barrels that had it. Refer to your Guns and Ammo from like 2 months ago. Then CFE must have a good amount of Tin Dioxide or Tin dust in it. IIRC in Hatchers notebook, Whelen or Manns writings, it was mentioned that Dupont patented the addition of tin to thier powders in 1915 due to some people, (probably Hatcher) in the military years before grinding up tin foil and adding it on top of the powder in test loads for the new 06 round to reduce copper fouling which was prevelent, and causing alot of problems at the time. Your comment just got me thinking, and thought it might be interesting. Swifty
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Was just out again, so if this is a repeat that is why...
AR Comp makes my most accurate 223s, even more accurate, with even smaller groups...
Do you shoot any 55's with that powder? I got 2 lbs of it and was thinking of trying it. I really like and favor 8208xbr and Benchmark in my .223
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