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Let's see Toyota build that! I'm still laughing (better product).

Here's some instructions for your "better product"

http://www.toyota.com/recall/pedal.html

Thing that tickles me to no end 'bout proud 'Yota owners is when they get to braggin' bout the virtues of their wonderous 5.7 liter.

I already know, 'cause I ran 'em when they were GM's (for forty-plus years).

I have driven Chevy trucks for almost 40 years. The last buy was a new Nissan Frontier. I liked the size, price and gas milage. It had a heavier towing capacity than the standard size Chevy and the turning radius was shorter. To cap it off the Chevy dealer I was working with on the truck I had picked out, thought he could keep me waiting for an hour or so while he left to work with a customer that came in after I did. So I bought a Nissan.
Only problem is that the Nissan will dent if someone just parks close to it. I think it is a flinch reflex the Japanese built into it. I picked up two dents the first week I had it.

What gets me is how Detroiters don't get how much the repair bills on the big 3 trucks hurt the rest of the country.

I've got several million miles on Toyotas with 1 breakdown, 1, period. A bad power steering pump on an '04.

I buy GM full size for my business, I need 3/4 and 1 tons. Otherwise it would be 15 Tundras outside my shop.

How anyone can say GM's ride well is beyond me. Even the few 1500's I have ride like the proverbial log truck.

I'd take the 1/2 ton GM's ride over the vast majority of cars - to include "luxury" sedans.

Tell Micheal Moore about it.

I just bought a 4 door Tacoma, my 3rd Tacoma and I like the 4 door model but I'd rather a regular cab for playing in the woods a bunch.

I'm sure there is a reason to purchase a 2wd truck I just don't know what that would be.

Maybe just to save money - especially in states with no snow/ice issues..

The gm 5.7l gets ate up by the Toyota 5.7l 10 of 10 times. Not even close.

Tundra is uglier than Rosie O'Donnells arse. Other than that, it's fine.

Love the looks of the Sierra, but I won't buy another GM until they are no longer Government Motors.

Tacoma has a terrible ride, worse handling, gutless engine. It's cheap though.

F-150 Good truck, but way overpriced now.

Ram - It's still a Dodge.

I hadn't looked at Ford until recently when a co-worker of mine just picked up an F-150 with eco-boost. A very impressive vehicle that is getting 23 mpg on the highway with lots of room. I had been looking at the Tacomas, but after putting our family of 4 in one for a test drive I could tell it wouldn't be much fun riding any distance and the mpg was less than the fullsize Ford.

Hasn't been a 5.7L GM truck engine in over a decade, so I'm not sure what you're comparing.....

I have a 2002 z71 sitting in my driveway,I bought it thinking I was supporting my fellow Americans,

When I found out it was made in Mexico with Chinese parts, Well,You have no Idea how pissed I was.

BY coincidence, it happens to likely to be the most troublesome rusted POS I have ever owned,

Last week was power window regulators, this week right front bearing.

As I have fixed many of these issue's myself, I just laugh when Dealership and supply houses recommend OEM parts,

In my repairs I have seen the crap parts GM used to build these vehicles.

Simple things like the tailgate cables, an immediate recall back in 02-04 because the cables were snapping from just lowering the tailgate,

I replaced the window regulator last week, GM's ideas inside that door were as cheap as possible, The speakers were mounted on the thinnest cheapest support I have ever seen, naturally the supports were broke and the speakers were hanging inside the door by their wires.

Lifelong GM fan here, but things are really, really, messed up, with the entire Auto industry in general.

35k for a vehicle built in Mexico with Chinese crap parts, Explain that to me please.........

I think that was tzone's point, that the only thing the old GM 5.7 and the newer Toyota 5.7 have in common is similar displacement.

Where did cooperfan go?

I want answers.........

Get the 4dr tacoma with the long bed and the tow package. I have the short bed and its plenty 99% of the time but there is alwasy the 1% where the extra foot would be nice. Anyhow, I liked the full sized trucks but didnt want to pay the gas bill. I average 19-20 in the city and 22.5 on the highway running about 72-73. Tacoma is a good truck especially if you dont need a full size.

Perhaps that is what he meant.

Just crazy all these comparisons (by anyone) of engines and trucks between today and even just a decade ago. The technology has changed so much.

yeah, but you're helping the Big-O too as a sweet bonus..

I got sick of paying for Detroit junk. So I guess we're even.