It's a proven fact that Toby blew the gun up on purpose because he was mad at Savage. It was rebarreled and is still shooting today. The Savage is the best muzzleloader still in production.

Bill doesn't hang out here, so I didn't expect you to know him. Did he build yours? The last time I was over at his place he had some beauties. And he had some really nice targets that he had shot too.

Bill has the barrels threaded to fit the Remington action and has the interior of the barrel threaded for a Savage breech plug.

I missed this post the first time through. Small world isn't it with my neighbor being a customer of a Campfire member. I thought that collapsible ramrod looked like what Bill was using.

savage ml. 42 gr 4759 followed by parker 275 hydro

If i'm not mistaken. The gun is based on the Savage 10. Does it have the same balance?

This is indeed a fact. Also, back to the original question, these are flat out the best ML on the market. I have 2, both will shoot sub inch 3 shot groups at 100 yards. The sabot is a major factor, I use MMP, a Hornady 300 grain XTP, 65 grains of Reloader 7 and it's a combination that is giving me around 2250 fps and deadly. For those that say they aren't legal, what isn't legal? If you can't shoot smokeless powder then shoot what is legal and use the same rifle.

I wouldn't consider buying the gun if I was going to shoot BP in it. I see no advantage then. I can easily shoot MOA with a CVA BP gun at half the price, and a much lighter gun.

We can't use smokeless here in ML season, but i'm going to get one and shoot it in rifle season. Just because I like muzzleloaders, and I don't like taking the easy way.

I'm looking for a 250yd muzzleloader for rifle season. I'll use a caplock, real BP, and a PRB for ML season.

Here's a new one of mine that's haveing a stock fitted to it right now.
Savage 10ML-II action w/ Fluted 25" 45cal 1:22 Pac-Nor barrel



Soory about that, I moved the picture into another folder in photobucket and lost in my post.
This was put together by HillBill and he is building a Remington for me right now.
All parts came from Luke!

The advantage is you can shoot either in it, it has a fantastic trigger and you have a proof tested barrel. You may have a CVA that shoots MOA but I sure never have and I've never had a Knight that did either. If I shoot Blackhorn or whatever that stuff is in it I do lose a little velocity and a little less accuracy but it's still better than any other ML I've owned.