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As Ringman pointed out in another thread:

That's it.

yes, it is. i'd be satisfied if people were out there planting trees on an annual basis. but, they won't even do that.

I'm pretty sure that I am. Jesus was pretty sure that He was.

People who've known me have all seemed pretty sure that I am. People who've known Jesus � friends and enemies alike � all seemed pretty sure that He was.

If you haven't met me, how can you ever be sure that I am? Do you therefore demand some kind of proof?
What kind?
The author who was known as "Ellery Queen" was in reality two writers, neither of whom was Ellery Queen.
Maybe "Ken Howell" is an evil conspiracy that comprises who-knows-how-many people, all of whom are out to scam you.

On the other hand, a teaspoonful of paranoid skepticism is all that it takes to disbelieve what so many others are certain of.

Kinda like doubting Thomas no doubt. Cheers NC

so, if Jesus were to send word, by whatever means, that he's going to be late on his scheduled return, due to complications in schedules from the far side of the universe, what should we be doing in the interim?

i mean, if he's a thousand years late in his return, how should we best respond to that bit of additional knowledge?

We'd all do well to distinguish among the three discrete kinds of doubt in the New Testament �

� disbelief, skepticism � Zacharias (Luke 1:18) "And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years." (emphasis added)

� receptive incredulity � Mary (Luke 1:34) "Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?" (emphasis added)

� a faithful disciple's demand for confirmation � Thomas (John 20:24�25, 27�29) "But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe [that this is the Jesus Whom I know]. �
"Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
"And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
"Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

so, given all the biblical rhetoric, what is the interpretation you derive from all of the above, that you're willing to share with us lowly commoners?

i mean, if God's return has been delayed due to unforeseen circumstances, for a period of time, say a thousand years, what should we be doing next, as a group??

in other words, just tell us the answer, we don't give a chit about how the answer was derived.

What makes you think God's return has been delayed? Besides, for any person their end time is just a few missing heartbeats away.

Christianity is a man-made religion just like all religions just that Christians can't see that. That's sad really.

Actually, it's your belief that "Christianity is a man-made religion just like all religions..." It's sad that you can't see that. As for God, apart from the prophesied end time, there is no absolute proof one way or the other, and in fact, there can be no absolute proof one way or the other. What you think you know about God is actually just what you believe you know. In actuality, you're in the same boat as all the rest of us. The only difference is that Christians accept that their view of God is by faith.

It's not sad at all.I am a Christian and very happy.Accepting Christ is the best thing I ever did.It brought more joy and stability to my life than any other decision I've ever made.I don't know a single Christian that wouldn't say the same thing.

Even if Christians are just deceived as you think,the only consequence of that deception is that they are trying to be better people.I fail to see how that can be sad.

WEll said Ken....agree 100%

In religion, you must "do" something to obtain favor, reward, Nirvana, etc. Therefore, religion relies on human effort and action. For example, Islam has the 12 pillars to perform.

In Christianity, there's nothing you or I can do to obtain salvation or favor or reward or heaven or merit. Nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada. No one is good enough. Not Mother Teresa, not me, not you, not anyone. No one merits God's favor. We can't buy it or earn it.

By this comparison, Christianity is not, therefore, a religion.

Tim,
You believe man has always had a sense that some kind of supreme being (let's call him God) exists. And you believe man has always tried to create means to connect with God. If we call those means "religions," then you're right that religions are man-made. But your conclusion, that all religions are man-made, doesn't follow.

Turn it around. Instead of man creating the means to connect with God, what if God wants a connection with man? And what if God has created the means for that connection?

What if God knows he is, as you've said, "that which is beyond man's comprehension"? What if, to remedy that, God has revealed some of himself to man? And what if, in his fullest self-revelation, he came to live as a man in the person of Jesus? (Jesus said in John 14:9, "He who has seen me has seen the Father.")

Then, isn't the sad thing that some men are unwilling to accept the God who has revealed himself in Jesus?

I just don't see how any thinking person can be as sure as you seem to be that all religions are man-made, every one of them. It seems to me that your view of God is a severely limited view.

Christians believe, as you do, that in ourselves we are incapable of knowing God -- but Christians don't stop there. The God who Christians worship is much larger than that. Christians go on to believe that he is unknowable without his gracious revelation of himself. "God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself" (2 Corinthians 5:19).

A god who is incapable of or unwilling to connect with his creation is a very small god.

Steve.

How can you support this affirmation?

Even with a limited knowledge of history, one can see that most historical figures, even some several thousand years older than Christ, have been documented in a much more complete and credible manner.

My personal experience was that my acceptance of God has made Religion and the Bible, and other religious writing irrelevant.

I don't understand how you can accept God and say the bible is irrelevant.
To me that would be like saying everything my wife has said since we were married is irrelevant.It wouldn't make either one of us very happy.

GW

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