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means i agree word for word.

Thanks.

Thanks. I never knew who actually said it or the original quote.

That proves nothing.

Sure. Jesus was a common name back than just Jesus is a common name among today's Hispanics. A Jesus was crucified we just don't know which one.

In Genesis 7:21 we see that "Every living thing that moved on the earth perished--birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind.", but by Genesis 9:2 the fish are back.

How this took place is not recorded in the Bible, but one theory is that God preserved aquatic species by removing some temporarily from the earth.

Where did the water come from and where did it go? Mainstream science accepts that some if not most of earth's water came from icy bodies colliding with earth. If two such bodies collided with each other near earth much of the debris could be pulled into the atmosphere by earth's gravity. People on the ground would experience it as rain. Earth's crust floats on a semi-molten mantle and it's known that weight, such as from glaciers, actually presses down the crust. Being the mantle is not very compressible, when some crust sinks other crust must rise. Under the influx of tremendous amounts of water perhaps the continental crust sank and ocean crust rose, which would explain the upwelling of water from below.

No doubt you'll complain that I'm just postulating theories to reconcile the Bible to observations, but that's what mainstream science does. When the orbits of stars around galactic centers couldn't be explained by the observable matter, science invented dark matter, matter we can't see or detect and can't explain, but is claimed to exist in order to reconcile human knowledge with observations. When it was discovered that the universe is expanding at an increasing rate, science invented dark energy to once again reconcile human knowledge with observations. Not only that, but dark matter and dark energy are said to make up 95.5% of the contents of the universe, and it's not apart from ordinary matter, but everywhere. Of course, Biblical skeptics accept this without question because it's science, but perhaps you would see it differently if it were called spiritual matter and spiritual energy, the realm of God and angels and which explains Acts 17:28 that says in part "For in him we live and move and have our being."

Here's the key. If you start off with the assumption that the God of the Bible doesn't exist then you'll always end up reasoning in such a way that you conclude He doesn't exist. The opposite is also true. If you start off with the assumption that the God of the Bible does exist then you'll always end up reasoning in such a way that you conclude He does exist. Which brings me to the point I made before. No one can know for sure. You believe what you do about God apart from worldly evidence and reason; it's a choice we all make to either accept or reject the revealed truth and the testimony of the Bible. The difference is that Christians know they accept God on the basis of faith, while skeptics tend to foolishly believe they have reasoned it out.

The only intellectually honest position is to know that you can't know, that you choose to believe what you do about God on the basis of faith. BTW, that's exactly the way God intended it.

For the skeptics:

I was watching a secular program one time which had a panel of five secular Ph.D. people. They were discussing different topics. The subject of Jesus came up. One of the panel tried to suggest He never lived, but was a myth. The other secular people on the panel attacked in unison. None claimed to be a Christian at all.

It was quite entertaining to me.

Dad went back to seminary after fourteen years "in the field." He was, of course, that much older than the class mates whom he car-pooled with. Usually, he was able to just listen to their sophomoric discussions of Biblical subjects.

Until the day when they were explaining-away the miracles. "It had to've happened [in this way or that]." Then they got to one that they couldn't explain away, so they concluded that it hadn't happened.

"You mean," Dad said, "that because you can't explain it, God couldn't do it?"

In the academic world intellectually honesty is prized. When the one secular person claimed Jesus was a myth it was natural for the other secular people to call him on it even if the other four also believe Jesus was a mythical person. What they rightly object to is someone claiming to know what they can't know. Maybe you still don't get it.

The Catholic Church identified that, I believe in the 1920s (or prior), as the heresy of Modernism. Then, by the 1960s, it had essentially taken over the Catholic seminaries.

Hearsay or have you met Jesus?

Since you make the claim, it is a natural assumption that what you claim is experiential.

Assuming experiential, exactly what happen for you?

Did Jesus answered all your questions or did Jesus erase all the questions you once had?

Either you now have all the answers or you volunteered for a faith-based lobotomy.

Which is it?

Let me say this one more time.
Kind or interesting that my daughter, born with Down's and a huge hole in her heard and diagnosed to live only a few weeks only received prayer in Jesus name is a healthy woman today with no Down's and no hole in her heart. Vancouver has the tissue samples that prove the Down's then tissue samples that show no Downs taken seven years later.

No medications, no surgeries, no treatments, no witch doctors, no new age chants. We just prayed to God in Jesus' name and she has been healed. I saw her for about an hour yesterday, she is alive, warm and loving. So if Jesus Christ did not live then explain how this happened. Please include other cases where proof still resides of Downs but now there is none. Show me one other healed of Downs and I may doubt Jesus was her healer. You all want proof, prove me wrong.
This is my proof.

The ultra, ultra rare case of your daughter's spontaneous reversal of congenital heart defect in addition to the spontaneous reversal of Down's is just the kind of extraordinary medical anomaly that attending doctors at Vancouver General would hasten to publish in top tier medical journals. Chasing down the biological mechanisms of what happened to your daughter would mean guaranteed multi-year, multimillion dollar grants especially for high profile diseases such as Down's and CHD. Your daughter's case would be career makers for teams of academic MDs and Ph.Ds.

Please post the citation where your daughter's case was published.

Not publish? Then I would suspect, instead of a miracle, something else.

Which religion of the world is the "right" religion? Science has proven beyond any doubt that evolution occured and continues to occur. Humans sure are interesting. What amazes me is how many around the world have been deluded into religious faiths at an early age. The one mystery for me is how life originally came about from the primordial soup billions of years ago. What are the odds of all the right elements coming together to form the first simple organism in the sea? There would be a lot of zero's but then time and space are infinate so I guess it had to happen. Lucky us.

100% wrong. What you describe is the "theory of evolution." If it were a fact, it would be "the law of evolution."

You have a fun argument there. Maybe they were attacking her because they actually believe history.

How could they believe history since they have no proof of it.All they have are some words written by men.

Which religion of the world is the "right" religion? Right now it is Evolutionism. Science has proven beyond any doubt that creation occured and occasional miracles continue to occur.

Humans sure are interesting, being created in the image of God. What amazes me is how many around the world have been deluded into evolutionary religious faiths at an early age starting with preschool. The one mystery for me is how so many still believe by faith that life originally came about from the primordial soup billions of years ago

With the odds being zero of all the right elements coming together to form the first simple organism in the sea by spontainious generation and yet it is taught in most universities. According Einstien time and space are not infinite and had a beginning.

For the earth to be in the correct location in the Milky Way requires fine tuning to many zeros. For the earth to be the right distance from the sun requires fine tuning to many zeros. For the moon to be the right distance to generate the tides correctly requires fine tuning to many zeros.

Blessed are the ones who accept some of the facts.

Are you serious? Ever hear of legal historical evidence? It is what we use to establish facts of history. We believe in George and Abraham because of legal historical evidence.

You have any idea how many documents exist to "prove" Homer? 643. Do you have any idea how many years between his writing and the earliest manuscripts? 500 years

You have any idea how many manuscripts there are to "prove" Jesus rose from the dead as recorded in the New Testament? At least 24,000. Do you have any idea how many years between these writings and the earliest manuscripts? 30 years.

Like Dr. Kindell says, "There would be a lot more serious Christians if there were a lot more serious skeptics." Get serious and prove yourself correct.

My apology sir.
I had you confused with the other guy whoes name starts with ring.My arguement was how could anyone accept history written by man when they couldn't accept the bible because it was written by man.Yes,some things can be proven but some things have to be taken on faith,even in the secular world.

It seems to me that the skeptic will accept nothing other than their own first hand evidence concerning Jesus, yet is quick to accept any secular belief with even less proof.