Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire TOTALLY SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since the government has no power over God-given fundamental rights like that to keep and bear arms, it's powerless to remove said right. Only God can do that. All government can do is nullify your right to keep and bear arms by reducing you to slave or prisoner status. Then the question becomes whether or not the government was justified in reducing you to that status.

That is really a piss poor law and should be ruled un constitutional.
People are being punished for something they did before the law went into effect.
Can a bank robber serve his time, be released, and then face more retroactive punishment?
How about any other type of crime?
Only this one works like that.

I am thinking someone would be smart to buy on the local used market, and not hang out at public ranges...

Bow hunting. As for self defense, yeah, you're totally screwed.

The question now becomes whether you have the money, time, and the mind to take on a years long legal battle that would likely go to the supreme court to determine if the law is constitutional. And that's IF you can find a lawyer to take it. And I wouldn't be hopefull when it comes to Brady laws.

Sorry. There's no real good news here.

And it's a retroactive law as well.
If ever convicted, no matter how far in the past, you retroactively lost your gun rights when this "WOMEN'S RIGHTS" law passed.
I had always thought there was a prohibition against retroactive enforcement. But not in this case.

It�s laws like this that can make a man a misogynist.

If you have the big $$$$ a good lawyer can get it expunged,
if not, sorry, you are screwed.

I guess it's OK for Wisconsin law to over ride the
US Constitution.
That's totally [bleep]..

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Print that and tape it to your gun stock! It authorizes you to use the gun if someone attempts to take it away!

Domestic violence is an enormous F/U.

Even if the victim refuses to press charges you are f*cked.... period.

If anyone here ever gets so angry as to lay a hand on a spouse/girlfriend, turn and run in the other direction.

Spend the night in your truck or what ever you have to do to calm yourself down.

Your gun priviliges (rights?) will be worth every moment you spend away from a bad situation.

I have a friend who is in the same situation in Calif. He said that he could try to get a judge to expunge the conviction from his record and he then could own firearms. I was going to give him a 22lr as a present.

Negative.

I think you should keep posting about it on the internet.


Travis

That's a gem ain't it?


Travis

This place is like Facebook for middle aged and old people.

That always helps me....

You were early in the new law of Domestic Abuse. No deferred's (sentences or judgements) were given out and few people even knew to ask for them. Also, local PD's and prosicuters are required to notify the BATF and FBI. And, unless omething has changed in recent history, they ARE NOT required to give a disposition. They only know you have been charged. It's up to you to make sure they know the disposition, especially if there is/was a deferred. You won't know until you buy a gun and they tell you DENIED. KWG

It ain't Wisconsin law, it's the Lautenberg amendment (federal law) and it's the most blatently unjust BS I've ever seen. Think the rabid anti-gun New Jersey senator Frank Lautenberg for this BS. Not only does it remove your rights for a misdemeanor instead of a felony, it's also retro active. If it's not unconstitutional it should be.

I think the only recourse is to try and get the conviction expunged. This is a perfect example of why you should never just plead guilty to a misdemeanor just to make it go away. Even a speeding ticket, do whatever it takes to keep everything off of your record, you never know when something so seemingly minor will be used against you in the future.

ConradCA, your friend was misinformed, an inspungement does not seal the record, from the form to exspunge a record
1. I am the person convicted in this case. I am asking that the court record of my conviction be expunged. I understand that if the record is expunged:
� only the court record of the conviction will be expunged;
� other court records and records of the police, the Crime Information Bureau, other law enforcement agencies, and the district attorney will not be affected, AND
� the conviction is not vacated or set aside.
He is [bleep] like I am.

I am trying to catch up here...
are you saying that since 1998,you have not bought a firearm thru a dealer? no 4473's filled out?
but,you are in procession of firearms now?
If you try to get it expunged,what right will the victim have to step forward and start this all over again?
Could a law suit follow from the victim in civil court?

I do believe I would follow the advice given before..keep this off the 'net...

Register as a democrat and you will automatically be dismissed of any wrong doing.