24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 223
M
Campfire Member
OP Offline
Campfire Member
M
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 223
Ok I have all the parts for a new ar build and am down to barrel choice I already have a few 5.56 /223 so I'm thinking different. Cal. The question is if I get a 300 whisper or blackout or a 6.8 do I have to change bolt face or mag followers?


Be reasonable. Do it my way!
GB1

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,806
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,806
300 - no.
6.8 - yes


Islam is a terrorist organization.

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,980
Likes: 6
J
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Sleepy
Campfire 'Bwana
J
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,980
Likes: 6



I have a 6.8 and I love mine



I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 15,864
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 15,864
how is ammo to come by? and the cost of such, jwp?

I hope this thread gets a lot of input as I'm highly interested in this topic.



"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams

Turdlike, by default.
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,980
Likes: 6
J
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Sleepy
Campfire 'Bwana
J
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,980
Likes: 6


I just purchased 500 rounds of SIlver State Armory ammo on gun broker for 437 dollars including shipping. 200 rounds are their "tactical loads" which are loade to a bit higher pressure and velocity



I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
IC B2

Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 15,864
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 15,864
Thank you sir! Are you finding that that's average for their price or on the low end?


"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams

Turdlike, by default.
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,980
Likes: 6
J
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Sleepy
Campfire 'Bwana
J
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,980
Likes: 6



About he low end IME, but good deals are out there if one just looks



I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 15,864
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 15,864
Thank you, sir.

I love the things I'm reading about the 6.8


The jury is still out on the 300 whisper for me though...

I do want to learn more about it...


"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams

Turdlike, by default.
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,798
J
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
J
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,798
Well, I don't like either of those for the fact that they're comparatively expensive as all Heck, but if you can get a suppressor, .300 blk.

6.8 doesn't do anything in particular that 5.56 won't, except cost more and recoil more, if we're talking about defensive use.

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,727
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,727
How about the 6.5 Grendal or 458 SOCOM? The 6.5 makes a dandy hunting gun for critters up to deer, and the .458SOCOM can handle anything up to big bears or pigs with little trouble.


I don't drink or Smoke. I spend my money on gunpowder and gasoline.
IC B3

Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 10,796
Likes: 4
N
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
N
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 10,796
Likes: 4
My personal preference is the 6.8 over the Grendel. I won't be giving up my 5.56 anytime soon, but I do reach for the 6.8 more often.

IF I didn't already have a GG in 45-70, the SOCOM would be fun to play with. Hard to justify currently, though.....

George


�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 223
M
Campfire Member
OP Offline
Campfire Member
M
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 223
I like 6.5 Cal. I have a 6.5 rem.mag and two 260's not familiar with the grendle tell me more


Be reasonable. Do it my way!
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,798
J
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
J
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,798
Grendel would be cool if it caught on.

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,980
Likes: 6
J
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Sleepy
Campfire 'Bwana
J
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,980
Likes: 6
Originally Posted by JustOneGunner
Well, I don't like either of those for the fact that they're comparatively expensive as all Heck, but if you can get a suppressor, .300 blk.

6.8 doesn't do anything in particular that 5.56 won't, except cost more and recoil more, if we're talking about defensive use.



Have you ever used either in a defensive situation? The 6.8 definately leaves larger wound channels and factory ammo is readily available




I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 574
J
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
J
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 574
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by JustOneGunner
Well, I don't like either of those for the fact that they're comparatively expensive as all Heck, but if you can get a suppressor, .300 blk.

6.8 doesn't do anything in particular that 5.56 won't, except cost more and recoil more, if we're talking about defensive use.



Have you ever used either in a defensive situation? The 6.8 definately leaves larger wound channels and factory ammo is readily available




Have you? 5.56 with the proper ammunition is perfectly fine. If it wasnt i would suspect that most L.E. agencies would be switching to 6.8spc.

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,980
Likes: 6
J
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Sleepy
Campfire 'Bwana
J
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,980
Likes: 6


You know that that for a fact? I have both and my money is on the 6.8. My cousin completed 3 ea 1 year tours in Iraq in a combat unit and his experience is that the 5.56 doesn't put the enemy down very well and that is first hand combat experience. The Special forces were a driving force for a more effective combat cartridge that would fit in the present AR military platform and that is how the 6.8 came to be.

You are only speculating is obvious



I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,798
J
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
J
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,798
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by JustOneGunner
Well, I don't like either of those for the fact that they're comparatively expensive as all Heck, but if you can get a suppressor, .300 blk.

6.8 doesn't do anything in particular that 5.56 won't, except cost more and recoil more, if we're talking about defensive use.



Have you ever used either in a defensive situation? The 6.8 definately leaves larger wound channels and factory ammo is readily available



Terminal ballistics are much broader than wound channels. Regardless, in any defensive situation, I'll be shooting threats multiple times regardless of caliber. I don't necessarily believe 6.8 has any notable gain in lethality over 5.56, but even if it did, I'd take the one that's cheaper, lighter, and with less recoil.

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,980
Likes: 6
J
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Sleepy
Campfire 'Bwana
J
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 30,980
Likes: 6


Minimal difference in ammo weight. Wound channel is the determining factor in wound trauma incapacitation. Recoil difference is negligable IMHO and experience. Use what you wish

Have you ever tried a 6.8?



I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 120
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 120
What was the ammunition used? 62 gr? What were some of the factors involved, i.e. where were the hits at? Some guys THINK they are shooting center of mass, whereas angles, stress, and body factors perhaps led the shot to actually not hit vitals. While combaat experience is important, anecdotal evidence needs to be looked at carefully to avoid erroneous conclusions.

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,190
T
TWR Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
T
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,190
I've been tempted by the 6WOA (6.8 SPC necked down to 6MM) but I'm not having any problems with the 223. Here's a 7 year old that thinks the 223 is about right too.
[Linked Image]
I traded the upper to his dad last week and he quickly put it to good use.

Though the 75gr V-max at 3100 fps is wicked in the 6WOA.

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

596 members (1beaver_shooter, 1badf350, 1Longbow, 12344mag, 06hunter59, 1936M71, 70 invisible), 2,326 guests, and 1,173 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,193,673
Posts18,513,224
Members74,010
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.082s Queries: 55 (0.015s) Memory: 0.9059 MB (Peak: 1.0178 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-15 15:11:15 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS