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Can only suspect that if accuracy problems with the 260, it was the loader. Sheri Gallagher won the 2010 National Matches using a 260 Rem. total points are 2,400 and she shot a 2,396-161Xs, to win it. Could be the rifle used if not good accuracy. Not a dimes worth of difference between the 260, 6.5C and the 6.5x47, as far as trajectory, etc. There was a study done of the 3 compared to one another. The Creedmore case is, in fact, based on the 250Savage, and AIing it is only screwing it up. WHY would anyone mess with perfection. Even Ackley and Harvey Donaldson said the same thing. Why take some round someones put a lot of time and study into designing, the screwing it up trying to Improve it. about 90% of the Ackeley cartridges aren't really improvements, he himself even said that.


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Creed. Faster twist. More versatile.


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Bah ... ignore both and do a wildcat! I've got a varmint weight barrel coming in 6.5mm to put together the old 6.5mm/250 as a paper-puncher/varminter.
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I'd go with the Creed, have a 260 and have been less than impressed with it.


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The 6.5x47 Lapua is what the Creedmore tries to emulate. Based upon the 30 TC case (not the 250 Sav) it really does not have the quality brass available to go head to head without alot of brass preparation.

260 v 6.5 (shorter) is really down to a matter of personal taste. The shorter cases do allow better load adjustment within the magazine box, and due to the length of most 6.5 bullets the 260 really does not have much of a capacity advantage. What little it does have is negated by the higher pressures the 6.5 Lap/C'More run at.

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6.5x47

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950 yds yesterday. Two head and 3 body shots.

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Originally Posted by orion03
I'd go with the Creed, have a 260 and have been less than impressed with it.


How so?

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Not a dimes worth of difference between the 260, 6.5C and the 6.5x47, as far as trajectory, etc.


True, but not in pressure, the 260 will do it with less.

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about 90% of the Ackeley cartridges aren't really improvements, he himself even said that.

Ackley didn't have the newer powders we have today either.


One 6.5 to check out is the the 6.5 Super LR.

If I had to do it over again and I will, this cartridge is getting the call.
http://www.6mmar.com/65_SuperLR.php

Just an easy pass through in the die with Lapua brass and no fire forming.

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Just my bad luck I guess, but the only bullet I can get it to shoot with is the 129gr. Hornady Interlock, which I guess isn't a bad thing.


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600 yards....

Any 6.5 will easily do that.

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I had trouble tuneing my .260 after I got it worked out its the best rifle i have owned. 140 a-max is whicked on game. The long 6.5 bullets seem to funny about seating depths. You can know get good brass. I only get about 100fps faster out of 6.5-284. Shoot reg out to 1000 and is pleasant to be behind.




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I have 2 6.5 rifles ........6.5-06ai and after reading Mule Deer's article I felt compelled to give a creedmoor a go. I found a 26" barrel length Hawkeye at a shop in Kentucky and had it sent, with a nice charge of Ramshot Hunter I was getting almost 3000 fps with a 120 grain Sierra or nosler BT and both shot at 3/4 " at 100 off the bench out of a stock gun( I did lighten the trigger pull). It's not as fast as the 6.5-06 ( I run those same two bullets at about 3175) but for a simple nice accurate low recoiling round and a surprising accurate Ruger right out of the box I'm liking the creedmoor. Seems the older I get the less need for speed and I am preferring the accurate efficient rounds. I think the creedmoor is a better case design ( just my personal opinion) and hopefully it will be around for a bit.I wonder if it might not be a inherently more accurate cartridge than the .260......I have no particular reason why say that other than I have yet to hear of a single creedmoor on any platform that did not shoot pretty well.

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My wife has killed a truck load of deer with her Model 7 in 260, although I will say it won't win any benchrest matches.


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A few comments on the comments already posted:

1) The Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor brass is made in Scandinavia and is VERY good.

2) I measured the water capacity of the 6.5 Creedmoor and .260 Remington with the same bullet seated to standard overall length, and they were within a grain of each other. That makes no difference in the real world.

3) If the 6.5 Creedmoor isn't a 6.5/.250 Savage Improved, then the .270 Winchester isn't the .30-06 necked down.


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I must agree with Mule Deer's latest comment about the creedmoor regarding the case design. I have and LOVE a 250 - 3000 AI and when you stand the 25 next to the 6.5 other than a small difference on shoulder angle (40 degrees vs 30 on the creedmoor) they are the same. I think years ago I remember as a teenager reading a chapter in Jack O' conners book the hunting rifle entitled Big punch from a small package .......or something like that.......and Jack talked about the 7 x 57 and the 250-3000 as I remember. Can't say I disagree with him. What is amazing to me is just how good some of the old designs really were. I really think the creedmoor is a modern classic if it holds on....just a sweet little round with a big punch........not to steal what Jack wrote but he was right as was Muledeer when he wrote his article on the creedmoor. I just wish he wold stop writing good articles that make sense cause they end up making me buy more rifles (grin)

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That's a really enlightening post.


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Oh, my!

I was expecting some specific reasons why the 6.5x57 was superior to the other cartridges mentioned, including the 6.5x55.


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