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As the topic suggests I have a glock that I would like to make some improvements to and I welcome suggestions. I would like to make improvements which reduce muzzle "jump" and increase accuracy, especially during rapid fire. The weapon is still carrying all factory parts. I also would like to improve the sights, yet I have no idea where to begin with that either.I am looking for solutions which do not require the work of a gunsmith, since there are no glock certified gunsmiths in my immediate area.

2nd Major Concern: I have been on gunbroker in recent days looking at a .22 conversion kit for my weapon(which is in .40 S and W) that is made by advantage arms. I plan to be shooting alot more and felt that I could practice more with cheaper ammo by doing this.... Is this plan feasible? Any negative/positive experiences with such a kit?

Feedback is appreciated...

Am I safe in assuming you purchased an LEO trade-in? If so, the first thing I would do is check the recoil spring, and probably replace it. If you've got the NY trigger spring then I'd swap that out for a standard spring. I'd then install Trijicon/Meprolite/Glock tritium sights and call it a day. Depending on your hand size you might want a Hogue slip on grip. After that, it's just quality practice time to master the gun. You could go the after market barrel route, but honestly the pistol is likely out-shooting you right now, and YOU are the piece of the equation that needs tweaking the most. No offense intended. The .40S&W can have snappy recoil, and that effects both your accuracy and recovery if not controlled properly.

You are correct on all counts. I purchased the pistol from an immediate family member who is a LEO. I am not at all offended by the statement that Im the factor in the equation that needs the most tweaking. I am much more familiar with the M-4/M-16 rifle than I am a pistol, but Im working on it. There aren't any courses in my immediate area which provide the kind of handgun training Im looking for, so in essence Im training myself.Its been a frustrating process to say the least.... I certainly appreciate the input...

At one time, a long time ago. I think you could send the pistol back to Glock and and get a gen 3 frame for 150 bucks.

I dont know if you can still do that or not I will have to look into it....thank you

You might only need to look as far as to the LEO family member for some basic training. Take advantage of that first.

A bone stock G22 Gen2 is plenty enough goodness to get things done!

The best improvement is to replace the polymer guide rod with a Titanium or SS Guide Rod. Another is the FULCRUM TRIGGER SYSTEM for Glock, There is no better trigger for the Glock than the Fulcrum.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=27178/Product/FULCRUM-TRIGGER-SYSTEM-for-GLOCK-reg-

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/cid=10588/Products/Recoil-Guide-Rods

start with a trigger job.
get it down to 4 lbs or so
Then if you want to decrease muzzle lift,
get an aftermarket , longer, compensated barrel.
( I'm shooting a Lone Wolf 6" in my G 20)
Sights?
There are so many sights! I have 3 or 4 sets that I have tried.
But on my G34 target gun, I shoot the adjustable Glock sights.
They just seem perfect on that gun.

I switch out the stock sights for night sights other than that I don't mess with it. Glocks tend to become less reliable when you start messing with springs ect, they work best bone stock. I would switch ammo to a 180 grain bullet that should take some snappiness out of the gun.

The LEO family member lives a good distance away. I think my major problem is not being used to the .40 cal round. At one point I used a govt issue beretta 92 frequently. Needless to say, the nine mil is alot different and the agency I worked for didnt train us in the use of the weapon-at all. Anyway,thanks for all your advice.

Here are the "Before" shots of my 19,as soon as it returns,we'll see the after....
only thing done here is a 3.5 trigger,Heine sights and extended slide release...

The after....

I've got a Gen2 Glock22. I just put Meprolight sights, and a Hogue grip sleeve. The Hogue sleeve makes the grip shape just right for me, and the shooting grip doesn't slip under recoil.

I just got a M23 the othe day. It has the standard connector with the regular trigger spring is 5.5 pounds. to drop it install a (-) connector will make it 4.5 pounds. though after shooting it a few hundred times you will get used to it. Try to use the trigger reset method and it should tighten up your groups! Also as someone said, the best round is the bullet weight of 180 gr. no matter what style. I feel the Gen 2 is the best version made.

My Gen2 G22 is set up the same way, except for Trijicons rather than Meps. Simple,reliable, and shootable.

Master Guns,
How did you get that picture with your rank and all your awards on your signature?

There's a website called Military Signatures with a program to put it all together. It was free, I think it's a small fee nowadays.

http://militarysignatures.com/

i'm not really a glock fan--though i've used them alot over the past 23 years--the goal is to become very proficient with most of the different systems.

early on, i tried some of the various modifications, and found that i almost always liked the rigs "as is" from the factory. this led me to the concept of basically trying to adapt myself to the rig--to learn to work with the different types of rigs as "near close to stock as possible", to make myself more versatile.

as far as the concept of .22 rf kits for rigs--in my mind this is not the best idea, as the recoils levels are vastly different, and with that in mind, i feel it is best to work on basic general skills with an actual .22 rf firearm, getting valuable trigger time--as you work to improve overall basic skillsets. its important to me to have an essentially different rig in hand when firing .22 lr, so our mind does not get "fooled" when we go back and grip the very same gun and experience full recoil with carry loads--the .22 should feel and recoil much differently--because it is--as we train ourselves in those basic, or general marksmanship techniques.

for basic skills training with a .22 rf--whether looking to improve sight acquisition time, sight picture, grip, trigger control, speed in presentation and engagement, etc., etc., its all about "training the cortex", as bruce lee used to say (if i recall his words correctly).

work on all of the basic essential skills with an actual .22 rf pistol--i will often do sessions of 350-500 rounds every 10 days or so--at times more, and usually never less. occasionaly, i will follow these up with carry loads in a carry piece "to keep the feel" and the contrast, of the carry gun in full recoil. another point to consider is that these conversions kits will run you nearly as much as a decent .22 rf pistol.

its great to be able to adapt and use different systems, but i think we need to "stop with that idea" when it comes to how the loads will actually recoil in the specific rigs that we will carry for self defense--they shouldn't act or feel like they are stoked with a squib loads (22 rf) while in actuality the rig in our hands at the moment of need is actually a full power 40 s&w with its attending recoil.

i chose to make a clear line of demarcation there--but this works for me--you've got to test, try, experiment to find what works for you, and implement that strategy...

as a point of interest regarding stock or near stock rigs, here is a video with l.e.o. marshall luton shooting a glock 17, that is very close to "pure stock" (only part that is not stock--the gun has a 3.5 lb. connector):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbC5mEc6ipE