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Having nuclear weapons is one thing delivering them is another thing.

Obviously, you favor gun control.

You really don't understand anarchy. If you really think anarchists will just sit around and do nothing to defend themselves you are nuttier than I think you are. What anarchists won't do is involve ourselves in other peoples business. Anarchy is about minding one's own business and voluntary cooperation.

Without touching your anarchy red herring, don't you think the suggestion that Iran, a backwards third world nation, constitutes a viable threat to the United States just a bit silly?

Wow!

My double digit IQ opinion ...

I think, although I'm not quite sure, the threat comes from a backwards third world nation obtaining nuclear weapons.

HAJ, is that it?

Both the Soviet Union and Red China had them, far more than Iran will ever likely acquire, and yet somehow the US survived.

What IS incredibly silly is your naive question, it almost defies credulity. Iran can and in a very short time, completely disrupt the world's oil supply that even if it didn't affect us would cause a complete encomic collapse of the majority of our trading parteners, in turn causing our economy to collapse even further. Not to mention is if once they can deliver nukes (and forget Israel for now), to their arch-enemy Iraq and destroy their oil refining capabilites, an even bigger catastrophe WILL ensue. Apparently you've swallowed the dangerously idiotic notion RP (the kook) has that all we need are a few submarines, some apologies, and a hug.

A single high-altiltude electromagnetic pulse from a nuclear detonation could do a lot of damage to the US. Launching it off the deck of an oil freighter along one of our coasts would make it hard to intercept and difficult to tell where it came from. The Iranians are just crazy enough to try a stunt like this knowing full well that MAD applies.

Both the Soviet Union and Red China had them, far more than Iran will ever likely acquire, and yet somehow the US survived.

A single high-altiltude electromagnetic pulse from a nuclear detonation could do a lot of damage to the US. Launching it off the deck of an oil freighter along one of our coasts would make it hard to intercept and difficult to tell where it came from. The Iranians are just crazy enough to try a stunt like this knowing full well that MAD applies.

Nah. Those who rise to positions of real state power are never true religious fanatics. Power hunger operates against true religious fanaticism. The true religious fanatics are used by such people, but the powerful themselves wish to remain alive so they can continue to enjoy the manifold privileges of power. It's essentially a law of human nature. Suggestions to the contrary are propaganda, plain and simple.

You are know in DD level of stupidness...

You're correct. "Somehow" the US survived.

Are you willing to trust the freakin' rag heads with nukes?

And ... numbers don't matter. It only takes one.

We have a missile defense network that would make that approach difficult.

More likely, and proven to already be a M.O., they would build the EMP here in the States from scratch. The delivery system? Well, that needs to be no more complex than a weather balloon....

That's why they use other groups to do their dirty work. Plausible deniability. Follow the money man!

No, not at all.

What I'm saying is that the idea that Iran's foreign policy is "none of our business" is a head in the sand position.

Case by case, TRH. That's my approach.

For example. India and Pakistan have been in an arms race for a while now. Is that our business?

Well, Pakistan harbors people that seek to do us harm. These weapons that the Pakistani Government are racing to build in order to defend themselves from India, somehow keep finding their way into the hands of those that wish to do us harm.

The conflict between India and Pakistan may not be our business, but the fallout from such a conflict is certainly worth us keeping an eye on.

Iran has a very well established posture and position in which it has repeatedly and clearly stated that it would like to harm Western Culture.

You are a big proponent of "following the money" yet you do not apply it to the dealings of Iran. If you had, you'd see that Iran is funding every group out there that seeks to harm Westerners.

Small bands of marauders in and of themselves may not be able to conquer a nation, but with the right equipment, planning, and financial backing, they sure can bring one to it's knee's.

Iran is not going to invade American soil with uniformed Military any day soon. They are however - and they make no bones about it - working towards the demise of Western Culture.

This has nothing to do with American World-Policism, it has everything to do with our National Security.

You think that would stop the US war machine from turning the entire Middle East into a giant glass parking lot after a nuke strike on US soil? They don't think that either.

Sadly, I do. Consider Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. We knew the attacks of 9/11 came from those places. Yet, they are not glass parking lots...

Two blunderbuss armed enemies in a room full of TNT could say the same thing, I suppose.