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I really wish our typical RP supporters would quit posting here...they do nothing but drive away who is required to elect someone like him...
I mean you TRH...you are the biggest kook to walk the planet...ever. Just shut the F up and quit posting...you do more harm than good
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I'll help... We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. I bolded key words you seem to have skipped over.
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How much are you paid to hang out here, HAJ? Not a red cent. Think I can convince Rick to hook me up!? No.
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I'd love to hear your take on history, especially American history. God knows how many times Steve_No & his lemmings, especially Baby Huey, have tried to revise it.
R Yeah, good luck backing that claim up, Mr. The-Whitehouse-Was-Stormed-By-The-Brits-In-1812.... During the War of 1812, British not only stormed the White House, they burned it. Madison had to escape in the middle of the night because British troop were going to hang him. It just goes to prove that you're a died-in-the-wool noecon liberal prone to revising history to suit your leftist agenda. R Read it again, and try again. I know you'll get it...
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so the argument is that our government is just going to spend the money on something, might as well be long term military engagements?
we are truly screwed as a nation if this is the fall back position on military spending.
and the question of is there a limit to our debt and the fallout of that will make someone with your perspective decide that we have to stop engaging our military in the world doesn't seem to be addressed.
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I'll help... We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Boy that Iraq was sure a threat... It's all a fuggin crock o' schit. And Afghanistan had about 200 friggen ragheads with AK's workin' out on jungle Jims and we been there for 11 friggen years. Stop the insanity. Anybody.
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I'll help... We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. I bolded key words you seem to have skipped over. I didn't skip over it at all. It's my whole emphasis here. Iran's leadership is a threat to The United States of America. Even moreso if they become a Nuclear Armed Power. Not that hard to understand.
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How much are you paid to hang out here, HAJ? Not a red cent. Think I can convince Rick to hook me up!? No. Was worth the shot
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I didn't skip over it at all. It's my whole emphasis here.
Iran's leadership is a threat to The United States of America. Even moreso if they become a Nuclear Armed Power.
Not that hard to understand.
By that definition, we won't be secure till we've conquered the entire world. Do you suppose the Founders has a redo of the Roman Empire in mind?
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I'll help... We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. I bolded key words you seem to have skipped over. I didn't skip over it at all. It's my whole emphasis here. Iran's leadership is a threat to The United States of America. Even moreso if they become a Nuclear Armed Power. Not that hard to understand. Pakistan is more of a threat to us in regards to nuclear weapons, and guess where they got them from. You keep in line and maybe you will get yourself a Government job.
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so the argument is that our government is just going to spend the money on something, might as well be long term military engagements?
we are truly screwed as a nation if this is the fall back position on military spending. No, now who's reading something into what isn't there? The argument is that the Government is supposed to spend money on National Defense. Nation Building (currently what's happening in Afghanistan) is not in the interest of National Defense. Seek and destroy threats is in the interest of National Defense. That's premise number one. Premise number two is that HOW we are spending money on National Defense is flawed and certainly needs to be addressed. Premise number three is that Iran is a threat and needs to be addressed. A Nuclear Iran will be much harder to address. Premise number four is that our weakness is in our culture of spending in Washington. That's what has weakened us in regards to a Global Superpower. The heavy burden of taxation the Federal Gov exerts on the private sector economy has driven industry to such places as China. The wasteful spending conducted by Washington has left us unable to compete.
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I didn't skip over it at all. It's my whole emphasis here.
Iran's leadership is a threat to The United States of America. Even moreso if they become a Nuclear Armed Power.
Not that hard to understand.
By that definition, we won't be secure till we've conquered the entire world. Do you suppose the Founders has a redo of the Roman Empire in mind? Where am I suggesting that we Conquer Iran? Iran would be easy to deal with. All we would have to do is support the MILLIONS of people there that keep trying to overthrow their own Government....
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Pakistan is more of a threat to us in regards to nuclear weapons, and guess where they got them from.
You keep in line and maybe you will get yourself a Government job.
I already addressed Pakistan in this thread. I agree that they are a threat that needs to be addressed. The word addressed doesn't always mean full scale invasion and war. You boys sure do like to put words where they don't exist!
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I didn't skip over it at all. It's my whole emphasis here.
Iran's leadership is a threat to The United States of America. Even moreso if they become a Nuclear Armed Power.
Not that hard to understand.
By that definition, we won't be secure till we've conquered the entire world. Do you suppose the Founders has a redo of the Roman Empire in mind? The whole world isn't continuously threatening to destroy Western Culture.... Iran does though... "Death To America" ring a bell?
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Where am I suggesting that we Conquer Iran?
Perhaps I'm missing the distinction between refusing to tolerate lack of obedience on the part of Iran, being willing to do militarily, or otherwise, whatever is necessary to impose obedience on them on the one hand, and conquering them on the other. Rome would have considered such a posture towards another nation to be one of conquest. Rome didn't care if conquest was achieved by actual invasion or merely by its threat and, if by invasion, they didn't care if it was an invasion by Rome itself or by proxy. The end result, submission to the will of Rome, was all that was required for conquest to have been accomplished.
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I didn't skip over it at all. It's my whole emphasis here.
Iran's leadership is a threat to The United States of America. Even moreso if they become a Nuclear Armed Power.
Not that hard to understand.
By that definition, we won't be secure till we've conquered the entire world. Do you suppose the Founders has a redo of the Roman Empire in mind? The whole world isn't continuously threatening to destroy Western Culture.... Iran does though... "Death To America" ring a bell? You also understand Persian, impressive.
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consider the source. the paulie crazy crowd just continue to embarrass themselves, and underscore the reason their boy couldn't win a primary.....anywhere. I'm hoping they'll at least go radio silent when they all pile in the clown car for the triumphant road trip to Paulapalooza in Tampa.
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When Rome conquered, they took over.
I have zero desire for us to take over Iran, just eliminate the threat.
You may be okay with very real actionable threats levied at our people, but I'm not.
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