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If Iran were a family it would be totally disfunctional. The leadership is more than willing to kill off it's youth and future just to prove a point that the west is "satan".

The country is circling the drain and it's youth and prosperity will pay the price. kwg

The difference is that I distrust all Governments equally and most of you guys distrust our Government the most.

In my mind, the American Government isn't trustworthy AND the Iranian Government isn't trustworthy AND the Israeli Government isn't trustworthy.

The way most of your boys talk is that Israel and our Government are not trustworthy. Iran? Bah, thems good ol' boys! Wouldn't hurt a fly!

Best thing I've read on the Fire in a while. So true.

I haven't been part of this thread, so I'm not responding as if you mean me, per se. However, I don't read folks comments on Iran as being pro-Iranian government in the sense that you are stating. Rather, the anti-Iranians tend to try to paint the Iranians as so ludicrously.... insane and irrational and bloodthirsty and pure eeeeevil.... that it begs a response.

Jeff, I honestly hadn't ever read anything you have said on the topic so I do not know where you stand with the whole thing. Thank you for understanding that my comment was not directed at you. Those that it pertains to know who they are.

In response to what you posted though, I would counter this Statement,



by replacing the word Iranian with American Government, then pointing out that the same stigma is not applied to other Governments.

Especially ludicrous is when you combine that with the fact that A.)at least our Government attempts to be subtle in their attempt to subject us, and B.)Iran has not even remotely hinted at anything else other than their desire to wipe us from the Globe!

It's mind-boggling.

you don't have to "paint" Iran that way or any way, you just have to listen to their words. only willful refusal to face an ugly fact can explain anybody trying to whitewash Iran's intent both toward the US...and any other infidel state that gets in the way....and Israel.

if the Iranians' ability to inflict damage ever equals the reach of their intentions, look out. preventing that should be the goal of western policy......blocking that, and ramping up the threat to Europe, the US, the Sunni Arab states, and yes, Israel, is the reason China and Russia are assisting Iran and egging her on.

And cue the "willful refusal to face an ugly fact" brigade....

Steve and HAJ,

Thanks for the replies.

Where I stand on it is that even if we were in a position to initiate another major war, and we are not, a nuclear Iran is not a reason to do so. If anything, it will be a stabilizing influence on the region, much as it has been for India/Pak.

....... and the neurologist just told me I can probably ski this winter, so I am one happy dude! WAY to happy to talk politics. Y'all will have to carry on without my brilliant and insightful commentary.........

Bingo! Iran could produce all the power it needs just from capturing the gas it flares off.

American researchers reported in March 2007 that Iran was burning off 10 percent of its natural gas output while Saudi Arabia did not even burn off 1 percent. They said the most logical way to quickly generate more electricity in Iran would be to use that flared-off natural gas to run electricity-generating plants.

The Pana news agency last week said Iran burns off 15 billion cubic meters of gas a year worth about $3 billion.

exactly....anybody who buys the story that they need to spend a huge chunk of GDP to generate nuclear electric power is just looking for a reason to deny reality.

The way I see it there are two Irans. One is the government and the anti west, anti Israel zealots. The other is the anti war pro-western Iranians.

Unfortunately, the anti-west, anti-Israel zealots have all the guns and are in control and the pro-western anti war Iranians are unarmed and have no political clout. All this means is someday this will all end badly for a lot of people. kwg

Radiology also requires a nuclear program.

yes, of course, that's why there are no X ray machines except in countries that are nuclear powers. why didn't I think of that?

ive gotta save that one for posterity......Hawk you truly lack any critical thinking ability, no wonder you decided not to be a cop, lawyer or psychologist and instead became a teacher....

So radiology isn't among the potential uses for enriched uranium?

you dont build a nuke to get the stuff yah need cause your gonna build some x-rays.......thats like buying a plane to get free peanuts.....

I don't trust any management system (government) nor State.

And I don't think Iran is the good old boys.

But there's no evidence they're building a nuke.

your not serious? so now your stance is Iran doesnt have a research reactor and hasnt been enriching uranium? [bleep] me they say they have, hell we gave them the reactor in '67......

Listen, you incredibly ARROGANT, STUPID, and Dope addled excuse for an American "citizen",.....you self proclaimed Obama Voter,....this is YOUR people, YOUR choice, YOUR GANG talking here,......

every toke of that chit you suck is one more grave in Mexico or the Desert SW,.....

I think I liked you better when you were endorsing tree spiking, you pathetic piece of schit.

Link: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/napolitano-terrorists-enter-us-mexico-time-time

Napolitano: Terrorists Enter U.S. from Mexico �From Time to Time�
By Edwin Mora
July 30, 2012
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(CNSNews.com) -- Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano told Congress last week that terrorists intending to harm the American people enter the U.S. from Mexico �from time to time."

At a July 25 hearing of the House Homeland Security Committee, Rep. Ron Barber (D-Ariz.) asked Napolitano: �As you know, Madam Secretary, there have been anecdotal reports about material evidence of the presence of terrorists along our southern border. My question is, is there any credible evidence that these reports are accurate and that terrorists are, in fact, crossing our southern border with the intent to do harm to the American people?�

Napolitano answered: �With respect, there have been--and the Ababziar matter would be one I would refer to that's currently being adjudicated in the criminal courts--from time to time, and we are constantly working against different and evolving threats involving various terrorist groups and various ways they may seek to enter the country.�

�What I can tell you, however, is that that southern border--the U.S.-Mexico border--is heavily, heavily staffed at record amounts of manpower, materiel, infrastructure and the like, and we are constantly making sure we're doing all we can to make that border as safe as possible,� she said.

An August 2009 audit by the Government Accountability Office that focused on Customs and Border Protection (CBP) checkpoints said that in fiscal 2008 CBP reported �there were three individuals encountered by the Border Patrol at southwest border checkpoints who were identified as persons linked to terrorism.�

In April 2010, CNSNews.com reported that FBI Director Robert Mueller told the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, �In Detroit, Mahmoud Youssef Kourani was indicted in the Eastern District of Michigan on one count of conspiracy to provide material support to Hezbollah. � Kourani was already in custody for entering the country illegally through Mexico and was involved in fundraising activities on behalf of Hezbollah.�

Five years ago, in an August 2007 interview with the El Paso Times, then-Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell echoed what Napolitano told Congress last week about terrorist coming into the U.S. across the Mexican border.

�So, are terrorists coming across the Southwest border?� McConnell said in that interview. �Not in great numbers.�

�There are some cases?� asked the El Paso Times.

�There are some. And would they use it as a path, given it was available to them? In time they will,� said McConnell.

�If they're successful at it, then they'll probably repeat it,� asked the reporter.

�Sure,� said McConnell. �There were a significant number of Iraqis who came across last year. Smuggled across illegally.�

�Where was that?� asked the reporter.

�Across the Southwest border,� said McConnell.

But wait,......the clearly identified Hezblllah and Hamass cells just to my 6 are nothing more than more neocon, imaginary bug bears,....right.

You are a sick [bleep], brain damaged well before your last/ latest impact.

[bleep] off and DIE

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