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Have been reloading 170 grain flatpoints with 30 grains of IMR 3031 but its so redundant to me with a .30-.30 in the locker. I'd like to step away and devise a load with a 190 or 200 grain bullet to make my .303 unique rather than just a .30-30 with a 26" barrel stamped .303 Savage.......
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Contact Hawk Bullets They have made 190 Grain Round Nose, Very Good Bullets and Accurate, But A little High. Steve
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Do they perform well at .303 velocities, I wonder.
The solution to that dilemma of the OP's that I too experienced, was to fire up the lead pot and make my own. Granted, not the solution for everyone but it works quite nicely.
Oh, that W-W would bring back the 190 RN Silvertip for handloaders!
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Gary They Preform well for a Jacketed Bullet, I have used them now for 6 years,and i know a few other members here have used them. a bit pricey, not for for every day plinking But if you have special rifle you love to hunt with, and want that size bullet to preform extremely well, they are a the best choice on the market that i have used for that purpose. Unless you cast your own. Steve
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The RCBS 30-180-FN mould will drop bullets at about 190+ grains when cast from wheel weight metal plus 2% tin. It's a fine hunting bullet when left unhardened (no quenching or oven treating to harden)in most 30 cal. rifles. My bullets usually weigh 197 grains when the gas check and lube are in place.
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That's a very good bullet. My favorite is a 190 flat nose cast in a custom Saeco mould. The beauty of shooting heavy cast bullets (180-190 gr.) in .30/30-class cartridges is you can get factory velocity within the limitations of the lead alloy. When shooting them in bigger .30 cartridges you are still limited to .30/30-.303 performance, hence why bother using anything else? Using even heavier cast bullets, like 220 grainers, is counterproductive in these smaller cases and is when larger ones like .30/40 Krags and '06's come into their own. The 220 can be used to duplicate original .30/40 performance, which was no slouch in its own wright.
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gnoahh: You've got it right. Regardless of whether I load them in 30-30,300 Sav. 30-06 they all work at near identical speeds because that's the break point for the unhardened alloy. Depending on twist it ranges from about 1850 to 2000 for me. Push them too hard and accuracy declines rapidly. With the penetration and moderate expansion the bullet offers at that velocity range I opt for accuracy rather than try to squeek a bit more speed out of them.
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