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It seems so easy. President Obama wants to cut Medicare by $716 Billion for
current seniors. And 4 million people would be kicked off their Medicare plans.
Who would vote for this crazy


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You are missing the details, it's all in the details.

Obama is NIT "cutting" $716 Billion from medicare, he is making cuts to drug companies and the industry that is over payment, waste and fraud, that adds back into the system for more and better care.

Romney's cuts are actually cuts that reduce care and would increase the direct costs to the elderly.

The question you meant was "who wouldn't vote for Obamacare?".


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Back for some more ass-whoopins',eh junior? Your cluelessness picks up right where you left it.

Did DU put you on probation after your last epic failings here or are you a mere glutton for punishment?


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I'd say that according to his signature, he's got a rather closed mind...


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As Romney and Obama are sparring over Medicare plans, it seems clear the president's plan
is going to have a dramatic impact on today's seniors. People hoping to retire in 10 years
or more are going to get screwed either way.


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The Demacrates stole my money an yours from S.S. now Medicare .This nut want to steel 736billion from medicare to go to obama care I say pizz on them pyt all the cash back in you stole plus the bail out cash we mit call this about 80 % done then get lost for the other 20%

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If Bam-bam is cutting waste, why hasn't he done it before now? If it is that easy to find, it should have been done in the last three years.


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Originally Posted by JeffP40
If Bam-bam is cutting waste, why hasn't he done it before now? If it is that easy to find, it should have been done in the last three years.



Very good question. I would love to hear Bam-bam answer that one.


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If Bam-bam is cutting waste, why hasn't he done it before now? If it is that easy to find, it should have been done in the last three years.



Very good question. I would love to hear Bam-bam answer that one.


Yep, and the stuff being cut from medicare is real care, really needed such as knee replacements and such for anyone over 75. Having worked the last 18 years in the long term care planning business before retireg 1 year ago, insurance side, I can tell you that such is a very cruel cut.

When the Seniors learn of what is really in the Obamacare model I think O Bammy will go down in flames, as he well should.


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Here is why I am suspicious of Romney. He has made a major production of declaring no change to Medicare. It's not so much that I doubt that he can fulfill his pronouncement, it is more the way he presented it in such a vague way. We know that Medicare co-payments and premiums have increased under The Kenyan. Was Romney's pronouncement of no change to Medicare to mean that he is going to leave Obama's cost increases in place? Because I would have wanted him to pronounce that he would roll back all Medicare increases The Kenyan instituted.

Any cost increase of Medicare benefits including co-payments are tantamount to a tax on those most harmed by tax increase: the elderly and those who must live on fixed income.

So when Romney proudly proclaimed that he would not change Medicare, did he mean that he's good with Obama's cost increases of Medicare?

Does anyone know exactly what Romney's Medicare plan entails?

How can any politician leave Medicare and Prescription Drug Benefits unaltered when taken together amount to about a hundred trillion unfunded liability. So when any politician promises to leave these benefits unaltered I become naturally suspicious.

Thanks in advance.

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No matter who wins in Nov, Dem or Repub, if you where born after 1960 forget about retiring at age 65.


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