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Hey fellas, I need a little education on the 284 Winchester. I assume its along the lines of the 270 win\280 Rem. Is there any disadvantage to this cartridge ( other than it almost being obsolete). Anybody have one or have any comments on the subject would be great.
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It ain't good.

It's great....................


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One of the best in that caliber.....moderate recoil, ave. powder capacity, .284 dia, 35 deg. shoulder, .473 head dia., .....whats not to like?

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I have one built on the 98 Mauser action, it's very accurate but heavy. I'm in the process of getting things to build another only lighter.
It's a great round for a handerloader.

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I have one built on the 98 Mauser action, it's very accurate but heavy. I'm in the process of getting things to build another only lighter.
It's a great round for a handloader.

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It was designed to duplicate 280 / 270 performance in a cartridge that could feed through semi-auto rifles.

Most 284 brass sold is necked down to smaller calibers by reloaders. For all practical purposes it holds the same amount of powder as the longer 06 cases but feeds through short actions. What's not to like about a 25-06, 270, 280, or 240 Weatherby, that will feed through a short action with all the advantages of the Ackley treatment?

I can't wait to build up a 25-284 of my own. It will be in a Mountian rifle configuration.


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Very good round. Use it in a SA or intermediate length Mauser and you're set. Runs right along with a .280.

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Everything old new again...

A few short years ago, I remember this very question causing quite a fight...

Eventually, Rick had to turf a member.

However, I forget his name. He was making some silly argument about brass availabilty...

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Everything old new again...

A few short years ago, I remember this very question causing quite a fight...

Eventually, Rick had to turf a member.

However, I forget his name. He was making some silly argument about brass availabilty...
I remember that very well. It was a huge argument which just kept going, page after page. Were you here that long ago?

Saw a guy at the range the other day shooting a 284 semi auto. Old gun, but seemed to work fine. Don't know who made it.

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Robert.

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THAT is the gentleman in question.

Was not his argument that the 284 was useless becasue the only brass available was marked "6.5-284" by Norma?

Secondly, did he not argue that since the 284 was made for the Win 88/100- and since they were junk- ergo, the 284 is junk as well?

He was turfed was he not? If memory serves correct, he was rather tenacious.


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I can't shift my mind in a low enough gear,to think on his plane.

He's gone and my assumption is the cause(s) were founded..........................


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I really like the one I have, well enough to carry on my elk hunting trip to Colorado.
It's a little more than the 7-08 and a little less than the 7mm Remmag. It's a short action 280 and that's not a bad thing at all in my book.
My favorite load is a 139 Hornady Interlock @ 2970 fps out of a 22" barrel. Velocities maxed out @ nearly 3100 but 2970 felt right so I stuck with it. IMO this chambering really shines in a bolt gun.
I have had a hankering to pick up a Ruger all-weather in 7-08 and have it reamed to 284. It's never far from my mind.


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I've been a 284 fan for a long time, but the introduction of the 270 and 7mm short magnums makes me think that no more 284s are likely to be cut with my reamer. My 700 SPS in 270 WSM does everything that I would expect from a 284 and does it a little bit better.

The 284 will always have a home with me when housed in a variety of Savage 99s and I can't see myself being without a couple of 284 based wildcats anytime soon, but my days of building another dedicated 284 are probably over.

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I have a friend who got on the .280 Ackley bandwagon in the early 70's. He shot the chamber out of the one he built and was ready to re-do it when another friend suggested he build a lightweight .284... He did, on a Sako action, with a Lilja barrel. Had it deep-throated to squeeze out that last bit of juice. That gun has been his main tool for everything from small eastern whitetails to muleys, to elk and moose. Shoots 140 grain TSX bullets extremely well at 3,200+ f/s...

He never has re-chambered the .280...


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I've got a scoped 15" heavy Fox Ridge Encore pistol barrel in .284 Winch. that just absolutely drives tacks.....I look at the .284 as sort of a 7mm-08 on steroids.

I'm loading 56.5grs of RL-22, CCI 250 Mag primers and Hornady 139gr SST's.

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I have had a 284 since 1986 or so. It was a Ruger M77 short action tang safety that was the 6mm rem. The late Harry Lawson suggested I try it after my 6mm barrel was burned out. The action didn't need any modifications to feed like it was made for the 284.

The beauty of this round besides its performance is that a Rem takeoff 7 mag can be shortened slightly and made to fit the Ruger! The heavier 7 mag barrel puts some weight forward and usually the barrel is 23 1/2". This rifle is on its 3rd 284 barrel. It has shot a ton of game when it was my only rifle. It is still my walk around coues deer rifle as well as a great varmint rig. While I have lots of 140 ballistic tips loaded up with the vel of 3100 and some change, my current passion is for the 120 ballistic tip and a healty dose of RL 15 (thanks to Big Stick's suggestion) for a vel of 3350. Man does that combo wack them!

Have had the 25-284 and currently have a 6.5-284 but the 284 is still my favorite.

Try it you'll like it.

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My only complaint about my .284 Win. is the Remington magazine length of a SA is too short to allow the bullets to be seated out to the rifling. The rifle still shoots very well. Mine pushes 140 gr. bullets at 3000 fps out of a 22 inch barrel.

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Boise--

If you are going to have a custom barreled .284, there is no reason why the gunsmith cannot match the chamber throating to length of the magazine box on a Remington. But it does require seperate throating and body reamers, which not every gunsmith has. The problem you refer to may be the case of using a SAAMI reamer.

My .284 is a real sweety--short LH Remington, Brown Precision stock, and a Douglas barrel cut to a Winchester. featherweight contour, 2-7x Leupold. It weighs 6.25 pounds, all up, and is the best steep country gun I have.

By the way, my 284 bullet of choice is the 145 gr Speer Grand Slam. It is the shortest bullet for the weight that I have found. I bought a couple of hundred on special from Midway, and figure that is probably a lifetime supply for that gun.

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