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I have tried to stay out of this as much as possible to allow as many as possible to share.......all too often, when one or two guys start a discussion they end up doing all the talking.

But the whole concept of "free will" or "predestination" is what, in my mind, PROVES that the Bible is NOT inerrant. It is a compilation of letters that met canonical standards established by Church authority. And if the authority of the religious hierarchy (the Church) were that important to Jesus, the Pharisees would not have wanted to kill him.

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Light and Darkness, life and death, right and left, are brothers of one another. They are inseparable.Because of this neither are the good good, nor evil evil, nor is life life, nor death death.
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Of course the arguement that God has no free choice, means that God was lying when he told Moses a the top of the mount that HE meant to destroy the people of Israel and start off again with Moses, then changed HIS mind because of Mose's arguements. Exodus 32:11-14



So you are saying God was going to base His choice and the rest of time on one single argument, made by a man?
Moses' argument and God's decision were laid forth and could not be changeed. It was a test, just a test.


A government is the most dangerous threat to man�s rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims.
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It was a test, just a test.

For whom? For Moses who knew God face to face? For God who wrote the test and knew the answers? Or for us who are trying to figure this [bleep] out?


Light and Darkness, life and death, right and left, are brothers of one another. They are inseparable.Because of this neither are the good good, nor evil evil, nor is life life, nor death death.
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[quote Or for us who are trying to figure this [bleep] out? [/quote]

Mental masturbation, all it is <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


A government is the most dangerous threat to man�s rights: it holds a legal monopoly on the use of physical force against legally disarmed victims.
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