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I'm sad to say I know more than one woman who did and who will vote for Obummer.

Their so focused on the RICH paying more taxes and the womans rights issue. You can't get any sort of reasonable argument past them they're so blind.

Seems the only argument I hear from Libturds around here are the the tax ones and it's just not fair that the rich only pay 15% or whatever no. it is. Doesn't matter that they essentially pay a hell of a lot more, it's just not fair and if they did all our economic troubles would be over, well at least for a few weeks.

People in question essentially put themselves through school, have worked their whole lifes and don't really fit into our standardized images of who we think will vote for him.

I know a particular female who will always lean Democratic,

Her focal issue is the ProChoice vs Prolife, Many females believe the GOV should have no say in this matter,

All the other issue's (to her)have become so convoluted and deceitful that they are nothing more than background noise.

It is what it is....

My inlaws fit that description, why they're going to vote for Obama again is beyond me. Its gotten so we can't even talk politics anymore because they're as adamant about voting Democrap as I am about voting Republican. I do know they only watch MSN to get their news and they apparently buy everything they hear MSN spit out. Got the mother-in-law to admit Obama's done a [bleep] job but she's still going to vote for him. According to her their both liars but Mitt is an even bigger liar. I've come to the conclusion that they've either been brainwashed by watching MSN or else they're just retarded when it comes to politics.

Paradigm shift is difficult. It is easier to feel than think.

Why do they vote for O?

blind stupidity

I'm in a union and have never voted for a democrat, and my middle finger is my degree.

I won't bother giving the +1 on this thread -i'd wear my finger out.
Basically -Odumbo voters are stuck on stupid as stated..

Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

Good perspective.

What these folks fail to realize (or don't want to admit)is that societies or approaches to governing based on these egalitarian principles frequently fail to deliver the goods.Eventually such systems must become "totalitarian" because they engender a system that stifles individual development and have to confiscate wealth from the producers and spread it among the non-producers...this is contrary to human nature and history is loaded with examples of the failure of such systems, Europe being one example and Russia being another.

The fact that the state has to impose penalties for your failure to "contribute" and "pay your fair share" is an example of the failure of the system...it sounds nice in theory but does not pass muster in the real world.We only have to look at Greece and the utter failure of the economies of many countries to demonstrate this;or examine the track record of totalitarian regimes to realize the system does not work.

The welfare system in this country is another example of creating a dependent class which has become generational in scope.

In the broad scheme of things,historically and worldwide,mankind has generally lived an existence of oppression and impoverishment at the hands of governments;the sole exceptions being more advanced societies which provided a higher level of personal freedom and economic development(ie the ability to earn through your own efforts and keep what you earn); and the worst societies are those who confiscate a large percentage of its' citizens wealth and necessarily stifle personal freedom and individual development in the process.....This is not accidental.

When I hear someone(an Obama voter)tell me that the rich don't "pay their fair share",I tell them they still pay "more";and that if progressive taxing policies,which we have had for about 100 years, works so well, then why are we still $16 trillion in debt,hawked for generations to the Chinese who have bought our debt to fund these entitlement programs....if Obama's redistributive policies have worked so well, then why do we have to borrow the money to fund them in the first place??

Despite a 50 year-old "War on Poverty" and massive confiscation of personal wealth and redistributive policies,why do we still have poor people? And how exactly does taking more wealth from people who make a lot of money solve the problem,since the math does not line up?

This is a bit too logical for a lot of them and they can't answer the question...they have been brainwashed to accept a system doomed to failure but won't acknowledge it....this is delusion.

There are solid reasons that the Constitutional system in this country has produced the greatest economy and a standard of living for its citizens in world history,while also producing the highest level of individual freedom and development...predicated largely on every individual acting "selfishly" in their own interest,and in turn depending on others acting similarly in the free exchange of goods and services in a laissez-faire economy.

To an Obama voter, the function of government is to make sure the outcome ends up being "fair" for everyone(emotional)which it never will be.

They are frequently incapable of rationalizing this,some taking their own success for granted without giving a thought to how and why they obtained it...thinking themselves morally superior for wanting to give everyone else's money and property to others.And then there are those who feel entitled to the production of others....just look at the riots in Europe to understand that side of the equation.

Power hungry politicians like Obama understand how to exploit these emotions, to concentrate control and authority in their own hands. It is not any warped social justice they seek..it's power and control.

And the stereotypical Obama voter falls for it all, hook, line, and sinker.Sad really.

I grew up in a conservative, but southern democrat family...

my folks have become disgusted over the last 30 years with the Democratic Party, so they just don't vote.. instead of voting for a Republican.. no matter how much they agree with them..

I just think it is left over from the depression for some of those types, who felt screwed by the Republican ( Big Business in their book ) and the Democrats saved them, watching out for the little guy...

of course that has long since changed... the Republicans are no longer the same party, and the Democrats are either...

the Republican Party is more along the lines of what the Democratic Party use to be.. and the Democrats... well, their currently leadership are just Communists at heart...

I never understood party allegiance that my folks have...but they are products of their times... as I am a product of mine...
as my son will be of his...

Unfortunately some people of all walks of life here in America cannot overcome their ideals as they understand and feel about them to exercise their ability to rationalize reality and do what must be done. Some don't see the problems and some don't want to even explore the reality of it and move to correct it, they take the easy way out and vote their ideals. I think it's as simple as that. You know I'm really tired of the idea on this forum by some people, that anybody working for the gov't is non productive democrap. I work damn hard for piss poor pay to listen to that sh*t by some who don't seem to have a focking clue about who they are trying to tar and feather. Magnum Man

I agree Magnum Man. I work for state government in the prison system. There was no choice but to join the union. I have NEVER voted democrat. Thank GOD Scott Walker showed up so I don't have to pay those scumbags union dues anymore. BTW I am not bashful about my politics and the [bleep] cowards have broken things on my truck, scratched/ keyed etc.
Don't lump all of us in with those socialist pricks. I work with quite a few like minded people. A few are outspoken. The rest are closet conservatives. They don't want to deal with the grief/ blowback.

Bill

They're (we're) not talking about you.
They (we) --(I)-- know, and understand.

I can't speak for "they" but be assured, my brush isn't that wide.

On the topic, the word of the day is deceived.
A carefully laid foundation of fabricated "facts" when they're young, then brick upon brick each with another lie at its core, builds over the course of a lifetime a wall inside the hearts and minds of people. In some of 'em it seems impenetrable. It may well be, but ya gotta try.

Make us of whatever hammer or wrcking ball you have available and get to pounding.
Tear down the wall.

Bingo! We have a winner. My Stepson fits the OP's description except he also smokes a lot of weed. He believes that the poor and dependent people in this country are where they are in life due to no fault of their own and need to be cared for by the govt.

I don't and never will, understand the white guilt thing because I never suffered from it....and never will.

It's intellectually dishonest to do so, and equally dishonest of contemporary blacks to remind us of it.

And, it's even more destructive to the black community, itself.

You should publish this in a pamphlet.....