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I bought the Bodington book on Amazon and will check it out when it comes. He is a reader and is into that kind of stuff. Should be a help. Looked on Gunbroker and see a Winchester that may fit the bill. I am not opposed to any of the other bolts that were mentioned if the right one comes along.. I want to set this one up as close to my regular hunting rifle as I can for practice to get the, field position, shooting practice year round.
Any other ideas on good books from the past or present on rifle marksmanship?
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Any titles on teaching rifle marksmanship? Jack O'Connor's Complete Book of Rifles and Shotguns has an excellent section on riflery technique. I've used it to teach the principles to several beginners and have had good results. It's clearly written and easy to understand. You might consider a Ruger 77/22 for bolt action practice. I still use one every season to get re-started before moving on to the centerfires.
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If you could find an older 580/581 or 582 you'd be Golden!
Dober + a bunch.......even used they're awesome rifles. I have a 580 and 581; never getting rid of either.
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I have a 581L that shoots incredibly well, even with cheap bulk ammo. It will never be sold while I am alive. How that skinny, pencil barrel shoots like that is a wonder. They are getting scarce and kind of pricey here. If I ever find a right handed 581, I will buy it for my son.
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Why don't you take the kid on a gunshop/gunshow crawl and see what he likes? A long day of prowling the used racks at the local gunshops might produce a real gem. My wife doesn't know diddly about guns, but she knows what she likes. The kid is probably the same way. Just my thoughts on the matter.
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I had to import my CZ 453 Varmint.. 5 months of waiting. Thats how good they are! And I even lucked out on the wood!
Now I am looking for a CZ 452 American before they are gone, and since we are only allowed 6 hunting rifles over here, it should tell you how much pleasure it is to have quality rimfires rifles.
I really cant see the point if somebody ownes a $10.000 safari rifle, if they atleast dont have a $5000 rimfire. Dollar for dollar, shot for shot, you (should) use a rimfire alot more then your hunting rifle..
Both of these are quality rifles, made like a rifle is supposed. Threaded barrel, two screws into the action, steel & wood. Get a aftermarket bottom metal, as they are out there. Makes the rifle much easier on the eyes.
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This CZ http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-452-lux/ with adjustable iron sights and 11-mm dovetail for scope rings could be a good training rifle. Could depend if you plan to work with iron sights and/or scope. Savage makes some nice .22LR rifles, but some take only scope sights as delivered. Their AccuTrigger [sp] should be nice. Formal match shooting would have special requirements, esp if adjustable aperture sights are used. They could cost as much as a good rifle.
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I have many rimfire rifles and a few hand guns as well. All shoot pretty good, or I would have sent them down the road. The best 2 that I have as far as full-sized center fire feel and amazing accuracy are both Anshutz with Leupold Compact 4X scopes mounted. One is a 54 and the other is the 16something Sporter with a Schnabel forearm.
They are probably more than you are wanting to spend.
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Go to internet archive and type in M1 garand. You will find a pdf file that has quiet bit of information on field shooting position complete with pics and descriptions along with how to judge the wind.
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358win, looked on Google for this pdf and did not find it. Is it something here on the fire? I would like to take a look at it if someone else knows how to post a link. Thanks.
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For a young shooter (how young?), I'd look for a single shot 22. It will reinforce accuracy and good shooting habits.
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The Art of the Rifle by Jeff Cooper covers it pretty well.
In regards to .22s with "backward" safeties, I have an old Springfield .22 from the 1930s with a "back for fire" safety lever. It's no big deal.
Somewhere, a few years ago, I read that early safeties were made that way because most folks were used to shooting external hammer firearms without safeties, i.e., you pulled the hammer/safety back to cock and fire.
I never have a problem practicing with my old Springfield and then changing to a tang Ruger, a Rem 700 or a three-position safety. Could be cuz I been shooting that old .22 for more than 40 years.
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Find a good used Anschutz you'll never regret it.
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New guy here. Looked at this forum quite a bit off and on over the last few years, but now that I'm a scoutmaster, and NRA rifle instructor, and doing a little more hunting than before, figured I'd join.
To add my two bits to this topic, I just got a Marlin XT22VR. I haven't been able to really give it a true workout yet. The other night after I got done helping some scouts I shot prone at the indoor rim-fire at our club as it was already dark. The 5-shot groups were all easily covered w/ a dime and many were 3/8". This is a 15 yd range and I don't have the trigger all the way down as I don't want it super light if I'm training a youth with it. Also, before the kids showed up I was able to shoot a 8" gong at 100 yards with monotonous regularity. I was pleased. I've had zero issues with mine. Early on some of the basic models had issues with the sights not mounted right.
Single shots are a good idea. An XT22 or similar bolt actions are better IMO. With this Marlin you can easily feed it singles, and then progress to a few in the mag, then to a full mag. I don't really like giving new shooters a semi-auto, even though I have them.
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Got the Cooper book last night and skimmed it. Never read any of his work. Interesting. Will pass it on to get a start on the field positions and breathing. Good discussion of safe handling of arms. Funny how many adults I know who ignore these all the time. Other two books have not arrived yet. Looking forward to seeing them. We will start with the Marlin 39A for now till I find the right Bolt Action 22. Looked at a Savage yesterday, but something is calling me to a Winchester 72.
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I like the Remington 541T.
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Don't overlook the Mossberg 44US rifles. Great trigger and shoot great. I use one around the yard with CB caps. Fun gun!
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Got the O'Conner, and the Boddington books last night from Amazon. That is a great start for a kid into shooting. If he can read all three of those he should be able to hang with the cranks on a Sunday afternoon around the woodstove talking rifles. Interesting to skim Jack's book. Sure wish the school library had a copy of that back when I was reading in highschool. Sure beats popular mechanics! Still watching the shops and auctions for a bolt 22.
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I also use a Remington 541. Mine has a heavy barrel so it weighs over 7 lbs with scope which is similar to my centerfire hunting rifles. It's very accurate with ammunition it likes. Unfortunately, the magazines are plastic and kind of cheesy but they work OK.
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I also use a Remington 541. Mine has a heavy barrel so it weighs over 7 lbs with scope which is similar to my centerfire hunting rifles. It's very accurate with ammunition it likes. Unfortunately, the magazines are plastic and kind of cheesy but they work OK. Same setup I use, very accurate with CCI standard vel. Can hold 1" or so at 100 on a calm day (bench). Usually practice with it offhand on the 10" 200 yard gongs at my club while my centerfire barrels are cooling...
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