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Most of here are pissed and disgusted with the current direction our country is headed. I am 56 and have saved enough to bail and move but where would you go? The current state of the US makes me sick but seriously-where could you go that would be better? New Zealand, Costa Rica, Belize? Where? This is a serious question. I can't take this **** any more. I am going to have a melt down if I have to deal with Obamacare, same sex marriage, legalized marijuana, welfare queens, etc.
Montani Semper Liberi
"Mountaineers Are Always Free"
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New Zealand, some serious trout fishing and big game hunting there.
That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.
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I intend to stay and fight.
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"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
We are all Rhodesians now.
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Food is at the core of Hunting and Fishing - Rebecca Gray
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Hungary, have been going there for years. You won't be able to replace once was the good old USA in any other county. Most have been and are what we are becoming in some form our fashion.
However, Bristoe has a good choice. Pretty much the only European country that has decent firearms laws.
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I intend to stay and fight. This
Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain
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Well, I guess I could get Canadian citizenship since my great, great, great Grandfather and his father were born there. But it's too damn cold for me.
I could live in Austria but their gun laws suck.
Australia is my kind of place, but their gun laws suck worse.
Islands make me nervous.
That's about it. I'd prefer that Obama just go away.
Texas secession sounds like the best choice, if Obama won't go away. Wife already has a medical license there, so we would have work.
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My wife is Canandian, and here on a visa. If this immigration process gets any more retarded, we are pulling up and moving to British Columbia.. She's been warned..(grin)
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I intend to stay and fight. Great post! Count me and my spouse too. Together we make three. Anyone else?
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."
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However, Bristoe has a good choice. Pretty much the only European country that has decent firearms laws. Don't forget the beer and the women. The Czech republic has great beer and gorgeous women.
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Probably Canada if they'd take me, but I don't plan to leave. I'd rather stay and be a pain in the ass, curve-wrecker, and all that.
The election results matter but not as much as some seem to think. Repealing ObamaCare was going to take legal action and going to take a while. 'til that while arrived, the cost is the same. The fiscal cliff looms for whoever is president and I don't think it'd be any easier for Romney+the house to get it past the senate than it will be for Obama + senate to get it past the house.
We are where we are and we better figure out how the [bleep] to deal with it. Yep, it matters, but it's not worth having a stroke over. Far as I can tell, despite the bad things that we don't like, this is still the best country on earth.
Anyone who thinks there's two sides to everything hasn't met a M�bius strip.
Here be dragons ...
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Seriously?? How many have honestly "lived" outside the US - and I don't mean an extended vacation or a short-term work assignment? You have 3 choices: 1) Another 1st world country - really, truly first world. And there's only a few. UK, France, Germany, Japan, Belgium, parts of Spain, Canada, and a few others. The electricity runs 24/7, you have shops and restaurants open at night and with a good choice, you have safe areas - you have "things" that you take for granted. But these countries taxation, socially liberal, and socialistic tendencies are worse than what you think you would be running from. 2) 2nd world country - South Africa, some Caribbean locations, perhaps Thailand, etc. The electricity goes off - often. In many places you have to drink bottled water. The stores sometimes have and sometimes don't have things you need/want. Simple things - bleach, detergents, washing machines ... don't exactly get you the results you are used to. 3) 3rd world - Caribbean nations, Latin America countries, etc. Argue all you want, but they are 3rd world **** holes when you get off the Club Med compound. Electricity is a crap shoot. Have heart burn at 11pm? Have fun .... Get a pain in your right side .... pray it isn't appendicitis. Of course, you can go to an "ex-pat" retiree compound and live the life of luxury. But it isn't. Not after you settle in. Your "new" house has a problem with electricity burning out bulbs ... live with it. The "public" water pressure goes down during the heavy season ..... get used to bailing pool water with a bucket to replenish your toilet bowl so you can flush your turd down .... Those nice people in the local town who you think are your friends?? Wait until one day a local throws themselves in front of your car outside a shop, and you slam on your brakes and barely bump them. Then the local police come ..... they don't have courts, police, lawyers, and the system you are used to .... you will reach into your pocket and pull out some green to pay them off, and you will have that on you because you will have witnessed another ex-pat get hauled off to the local jail and kept their 2 days until his wife brought the cash in! People have no ****ing comprehension what it is like living outside the US, and the value of the freedoms, protections, rights, and services we have. You go to another country to live, in essence you are there as an invited, tolerated guests that last as long as they wish, and to what extent their tolerance goes ... depending on who you may piss off, who is related to whom, and how much you are willing to bow your head in submission ....
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Trump Won!
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Canada, I would move next door to Brian just for the fun of it.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!
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I intend to stay and fight. This +2
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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Canada, I would move next door to Brian just for the fun of it. I'm sure you would be welcome.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender
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I intend to stay and fight. Count me in too!! ddj
Many men go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after. - Henry David Thoreau
The best part of hunting and fishing was the thinking about going and the talking about it after you got back. - Robert Ruark
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