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If you have an "enhanced" carry permit in MS, you can

No such thing in Florida. When I was in New York, I came across lots of folks who had what amounted to an enhanced permit, i.e., a deputy sheriff badge. They weren't salaried by the Sheriff's Office and performed no duties, but knew people in the department willing to deputize them just so they could carry anywhere they wanted and didn't have to worry about the silly restrictions placed on CCW permits by the various and sundry issuing authorities throughout the state.

In my opinion, that should be the standard concealed carry license, and there shouldn't be any need for an enhanced one, since they have already checked you out before issuing the permit anyway.

They just passed the law a little over a year ago

to obtain a reg permit in MS, all you have to do is fill out paperwork, pay the fee, and get fingerprinted....no class, no qualifications

the "enhanced permit" is issued once you pay to take a class and qualify at a range

The enhancement lets you carry EVERYWHERE except police stations and federal places like post offices and airports

you can carry at schools, bars, parks, churches, polling places, stadiums, ect ect

I see your point, but, the training I have in CC is unambiguous in teaching that I'm better off if the carjacker, robber, etc ... doesn't know I'm armed until I'VE MADE THE DECISION to make it known (IE... By drawing and firing).

Not saying that's a golden rule ---- but it's what I've been taught.

Literally standing next to UHP about to vote in elementary school RIGHT NOW!!!

Alan

You are entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to my opinion which is based on my experience. I will admit that the politicians are more of the problem than the police but the police do after all work for the politicians.

There has been more than one case where a person was attacked and killed because they were open carrying. Criminals actually targeted these citizens! Criminals are not impressed by seeing some one with a gun on their hip. They practice in prison learning to disarm people and get pretty good at it. Sure open carry will scare old ladies and liberals.
Anyone who carries a firearm concealed or opened carry, firearm retention is a real concern! If you think otherwise you are delusional. Most are not trained, physically capable, or aware to prevent such a premeditated attack.
Where do you think a confrontation takes place at? Its usually fairly close (feet), in low light conditions.

I like it

But I like CCW to

.....well I can certainly see why you'd love Utah! :-)

In other words, you are basing your opinion on anecdotal evidence. How many LEOs do you know? How many of them expressed reservations about having law abiding citizens armed?

I'm not in Kansas......

Took this pic right after I exited the polls in front of our local elem school. My new "I voted" sticker on my holster.

On another note, I truly appreciate the willingness of many here to verbally suport us who choose to OC, our free agency to do so; even if they feel otherwise.



Within days of my son starting both elem as well as Jr High, I walked in to the principals office and introduced myself and my 1911 to give them headups that they would see me and mine frequently. Has never been an issue.

Alan

Just for the record, would you be kind enough to cite three examples where this happened to a private citizen?

....well, I'm impressed, Alan.
.....do many businesses post in Utah? Can you carry in bars, etc.? If you're Mormon, it's a moot point but I've heard that the % on non-LDS residents in Utah has increased substantially.

Read the second amendment. Its our right! CHL? BULLS###, another tab kept on us...

About the only business's that I see posted are the shopping malls and the theaters. Even if caught OC'ing or CC'ing, if asked to leave and refusing, it's a trespass charge, not a firearm charge. And, for stated reason's, I don't go into bars so couldn't comment on them. Hey, we had 29% vote for Obama yesterday.

Alan

When is a show of preparedness not advantageous?

True. I should have said "particularly advantageous."

i see no reason to carry a gun openly. why would one want to give away any advantage should a dangerous situation develop? why become the first target? just doesn't make any sense to me. ymmv.

I'm all for non-LEOs carrying in what ever manner they choose, as long as it's legal. As a Deputy in Texas, I went to the DPS Headquarters and received the training to become a CC instructor. I paid for it all on my dime. I believe strongly in a person's right to protect themselves with the most efficient, effective means reasonably possible.

With that said, I believe a non-LEO should really stick to carrying concealed, and pull the firearm out if needed. LEOs carry open for the most part. There is a social stigma against shooting an LEO. Whether you agree with me or not is immaterial. Bad guys know if they shoot a LEO their days of freedom, even life, are going to be short and violent. A dead LEO receives much more, much much more investigative manpower, time and intensity than the killing of a non-LEO. It's not fair, but, it's the truth. Additionally, killing a LEO or Firefighter in the line of duty carries the Death Penalty in most states.

If I had asserted that, I'd have been hit with a barrage of angry denials from the cops of the Fire.