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Travis I have a laptop so I can still read on the chitter.
But like you I prefer the regular Magazine .
Craig But if somebody knocks, can you throw your laptop against the door and scream "GFY!"? Can you roll up your laptop and smack your dog? Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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What is a fast twist?
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I am..........disturbed.
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Humm, I've only been promoting fast twists since Moses had a paper route.... David Tubb and Methusala both figured out the same quite a while back.
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Humm, I've only been promoting fast twists since Moses had a paper route.... BS...you weren't there when Moses had a paper route...I was.... You've both exposed yourselves (yes, I'm betting that's true as well) as liars in referring to it as a paper route. Having actually been there myself, I will point out that it was a tablet (as in stone) route. So there.
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You're all wrong,rocks were not that big back then...pebbles only
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I haven't bee 'stable' for a loooooooooong time... Unstable = Too slow a twist likely. 
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Humm, I've only been promoting fast twists since Moses had a paper route.... David Tubb and Methusala both figured out the same quite a while back. GFY. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Ketel One, on the rocks, with a (fast) twist of lime...great way to stabilize at the end of the day.
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What is a fast twist?
Respectfully,
A. Einstein Check with Chubby Checker about last summer.
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I am guessing then that a gain twist would hep both problems; pressure and stability. Just guessing mind you. Cheers NC
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I am guessing then that a gain twist would hep both problems; pressure and stability. Just guessing mind you. Cheers NC My unqualified guess would be yes, but the only way to make a good gain twist is to hammer forge it like Steyr and FN are doing. These are about the most accurate factory barrels being produced, IME.
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I would think it would be hard to remove the mandrel from a hammer forged gain twist.
Cut rifling, I would think, would be the best way to make a gain twist.
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I haven't bee 'stable' for a loooooooooong time... Unstable = Too slow a twist likely. But definately twisted, none the less....................
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The title to the thread looked really interesting, but the rest is history............
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JBs article prompted me to buy the magazine. Glad I did as it was a good article. Thanks Mr. Barsness.
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I am guessing then that a gain twist would hep both problems; pressure and stability. Just guessing mind you. Cheers NC My unqualified guess would be yes, but the only way to make a good gain twist is to hammer forge it like Steyr and FN are doing. These are about the most accurate factory barrels being produced, IME. Not to mention pressure is not an issue. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I havent seen it yet...What'd he say? What'd he say? He said, at least impliedly ...that the 270 is just as good as the 7mm's and the 6.5's if you twist it faster and use the same type high BC bullets...  Well to be fair John didn't really say that....but his little captions near the pictures of 25 and 270 bullets sort of explain how 6.5's and 7mm's go to be so "superior" to 270's. The article was excellent! And timely. Side Note: Where did this utter ridiculousness about fast twists and higher pressure come from? Sounds like gain twist is a solution to a problem that never existed.The shooting world is loaded with those! RinB and I (among others) were having fast twist cut rifle barrels built in 270,7mm,30,and 375 back in the 80's.It was old Bill Steigers of Bitterroot Bullet Company who educated us on this stuff, based on extensive work he did with them back then.The reasons were a bit different from those ordinarily proffered today.
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RinB and I (among others) were having fast twist cut rifle barrels built in 270,7mm,30,and 375 back in the 80's. Ahh, so you were the one with the paper route??
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What is a fast twist?
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A. Einstein Something postulated by Chubby Checkers in the early 1960's
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I hadn't the chance to read it, yet.
Did he mention anything about the results of testing fast twists on short bullets?
Like a 1:7 twist on a 40 gr .223?
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