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My grandfather left me his 250 savage modell 99. I was only 5 when he died. I think it would be cool to kill a deer with his rifle. I mounted a weaver 3x on the gun and just want to know a good load to load up. Thanks
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I had luck with the 80gr TTSX in my Savage Model 16 but I am pretty sure they have different twist.
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If it's the older 1-14 twist, get some 87 Speer Hot Cores and try them with RL-15, H4895, Varget or something similar. The Speer 100 Hot Core isn't bad in my M99, but can't get anything mono-metal or plastic tipped to group.
I've taken several deer with that 87 speer with no problems. Punched both shoulders of a whitetail at 200 yards with the 100 and got an exit.
The 100 Hornady Interlock is my favorite 25 cal. deer bullet, but I use it in faster twist guns like my Ruger .250 Savage and .257 Roberts. My M99 doesn't like it as well since it is longer than the 100 Speer.
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If you want to know if that gun will shoot, load 34-35 grains H4895 with a Sierra 90 grain HPBT on top. However, I can not honestly recommend that bullet for consistent one shot kills on Whitetails.
87 grain Speer HotCor and same powder and grains as above...is a reliable Whitetail killer.
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Concur with roundoak, but you may also try the Speer 100 gr. hot-cor over 33 gr. of the H4895, that's been a great load for me in several 99's.
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87 gr Speers have worked for years. Killed my first several deer with them
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I am in a similar situation, with a new to me model 99G in 250/3000. I have some old Remington Core Lokt 100gr factory loads that I am going to try and a large supply of 100gr WW Silvertips to try as well. If my rifle won't shoot either, then the 87gr Speer and Hornaday bullets will be next up and I won't mind or be concerned about using them on a deer.
In perusing the loading manuals, it semed to me like R-15 was consistently the powder that gave the highest velocities, someties over 3000fps with a 100gr bullet so I have opbtained a lb of that powder to go along with my standby 4895 etc for experimentation in this rifle.
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I've been running R15 with 100 grain Speer and Hornady flat bases myself. Easy to load and shoot. I do get much better case life at 2900 FPS in my 99.
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I have some old Remington Core Lokt 100gr factory loads that I am going to try and a large supply of 100gr WW Silvertips to try as well.
safariman, over the years I have occasionally shot "old" ammunition in my 99s, however I bump the bullet in the seating die first to detect cold weld. In some cases I experienced strong resistance in bumping the bullet, so I pulled the bullets. Did a retro hunt for Whitetail a couple of years ago with a box of old, pre Core-Lokt Remington 87 grain bullets and results in picture below. 87 yards, quartering away, bullet took out a short rib on the starboard side, liver, lung exited portside. ![[Linked Image]](http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/jackpine44/250savagecartridges001.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/jackpine44/250Savage2010001.jpg)
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Roundoak,
Great rifle AND buck there! I have yet to so see a checkered stock deluxe model 99, that thing is just gorgeous! I am in love here....
I keep hearing how effective the old 87gr bullets are in the 250/3000. With any luck my model 99 will shoot 87's and 100's to at least neaarly the same POI and I can maybe try them both on a same hunt. Perhaps the 24hr pig hunt in a few months. Out here we can only get one deer per year so it is hard to bloody and field test different rifles. As well, I don't have confidence yet that a 250/3000 with any load is going to havethe poop to smack downour sometimes 300lb mule deer bucks at extreme range. I hunt CRP grasslands with little cover so average shots are 300 yards and a long shot is often needed in the 400-500 yard category. My deer this year was a full lazered 506 yards from the muzzle when I fired. I am selling off quite a few of my guns and other toys and putting some the money aside so that I CAN go to this years 24hrcf pig hunt and maybe back east somewhere for a multiple deer area hunt and test out/bloody a few new to me toys like my Model 99.
Thanks for the tip RE setting the bullets back a little to make sure they are not stuck to the case too much thus possibly posing a pressure curve problem. I will do this to the old ammo I snagged at the last gun show.
Thanks tons,
MARK
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Nosler 100 gr BT with Hod 4895 or IMR 4320
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Beal, Have you tried thoise 100gr BT's in a slow twist 250/3000? Most of the Model 99's out there, by a large margin, are 1 in 14 twist rates. It seems to me that those Noslers would be a tad long to stabilize in that twist rate. It would be very cool if a model 99 WOULD shoot them OK, as that would be a nice high BC bullet to use.
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I have never used the Nosler 100 BT in the 250 . I had the Clerke Single Shot which was a Winchester Falling Block Copy in the 250 Savage and used the 87 g Hornady in it and they shot very well with no problems , I didn't use the BT because they didn't make them at the time. . The 100 gr BT may shoot better than you think in a 1  14 twist if pushed fast enought.
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Roundoak,
Great rifle AND buck there! I have yet to so see a checkered stock deluxe model 99, that thing is just gorgeous! I am in love here....
I keep hearing how effective the old 87gr bullets are in the 250/3000. With any luck my model 99 will shoot 87's and 100's to at least neaarly the same POI and I can maybe try them both on a same hunt. Perhaps the 24hr pig hunt in a few months. Out here we can only get one deer per year so it is hard to bloody and field test different rifles. As well, I don't have confidence yet that a 250/3000 with any load is going to havethe poop to smack downour sometimes 300lb mule deer bucks at extreme range. I hunt CRP grasslands with little cover so average shots are 300 yards and a long shot is often needed in the 400-500 yard category. My deer this year was a full lazered 506 yards from the muzzle when I fired. I am selling off quite a few of my guns and other toys and putting some the money aside so that I CAN go to this years 24hrcf pig hunt and maybe back east somewhere for a multiple deer area hunt and test out/bloody a few new to me toys like my Model 99.
Thanks for the tip RE setting the bullets back a little to make sure they are not stuck to the case too much thus possibly posing a pressure curve problem. I will do this to the old ammo I snagged at the last gun show.
Thanks tons,
MARK Mark, my 99A is not a deluxe model by any means. The man that owned it before me purchased it new in 1973 and had Charlie Cournoyer of South Milwaukee WI checker it. I purchased the gun from his widow a few years ago and it came with original box, tag, parts/instruction book, purchase receipt and checkering work receipt. My other 99 250 Savage is an EG and is a safe queen now. I can not speak to long range shooting with a 250 as all my kills have been 250 yards or less, however I can attest that it will take down large Michigan and Wisconsin Whitetails. Largest one field dressed out at 247# down at the local feed mill. Enjoy that 99. Wayne
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Wayne,
Hmmmmmm..... You are giving me some ideas here. Since my Model 99 has been D&T'ed and is most defiantely a hunting rifle as opposed to a safe queen or a collector, I might have to ship off the stock on this one, too! Get it checkered and re finished in a way that brings out the color and figure in the wood a bit more.
247 Field dressed is a BIG buck by anyone's standards! Not really much smaller than some cow elk. 87gr bullet or a 100 grainer?
Mark
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I'll put out another + for H4895 and Speer 87gr Hot Cores. Haven't had a chance to use them on deer yet, but they sure work on antelope. Accurate and seem to hit 3000fps easily on my chrono's without having to go to a max load.
safariman, I love the 250-3000 but definitely wouldn't choose it to be hunting very large deer at 300+ yards, it just isn't the right choice imho. Wouldn't use a 243 with Partitions for that either. 250 yards or less is what I consider it's sweet spot to be. The old timers definitely used it for long range shooting, but many of them weren't demanding the 1 shot kills that so many of us want. Many were happy to wound and be able to trail the critter to finish it off with more shots.
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Mark, the 87 grain was a Speer SP a pre-HotCor bullet.
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Roundoak is your 99A a 1-10 twist with a 20 inch barrel?
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My grandfather left me his 250 savage modell 99. I was only 5 when he died. I think it would be cool to kill a deer with his rifle. I mounted a weaver 3x on the gun and just want to know a good load to load up. Thanks How about a 100 Gr Gophuckyourself bullet with 38 grains of Hodgdon [bleep] powder? If I were you, I'd only use You'reaphuckindickhead brass and Suckmyballs primers. Should be a perfect combination for a kid that has to use 180 gr bullets in his 30-06 or 308 to kill a little ole' Whitetail deer........"runnin" and once said the 250 wasn't enough gun for the way you hunt deer.
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