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I've found a dealer that has the Z6 1.7x10x42 on sale for $1263. Anyone know of a better price on this scope? Also, are there any other brands in this style and price range that would be better for deer hunting application?

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Wow! - where, I'd like to get one too!

I have the Z3 and really think it is a great scope. I think you could add a ballistic turret to that in the future if you wanted as well.

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Midsouth Shooters. They are in Clarksville, TN and have on-line sales.

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Dang, must have gone fast. Ordered one earlier that is on its way, but I just checked and don't see them on their site now.

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They still have the Z6 2x12x50 on sale for $1358.

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Originally Posted by JRE11
They still have the Z6 2x12x50 on sale for $1358.


I've been buying these that are 4+ years old to get the (now discontinued) tds reticle model and paying $1500-$1650. Best glass my eyes have ever seen. I think I've got 5 of them now - very hard to come by.

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I think these may be gone too.

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I had a 1" Swaro with the TDS reticle. Because of the SFP, it had to be at full power to work. The top end on this scope was 18X and using a Harris Bipod, trying to kill a Pronghorn at 385 yds, holding that high powered glass still was quite a chore. I made the shot, but traded that scope for a Z5 3.5-18x44 BT, later fitted with an Outdoorsmans turret.

If one was going to use the TDS, a FFP reticle would be the way to go, as it would work at any power setting. I'm now a turret guy, but your FFP, TDS set up makes a lot of sense. I do like the TDS as it's simple, yet effective.

I don't have a Z6, but do have a Zeiss Victory 1.5-6x42 T* which should be pretty close. I got mine used in the $900 range, like new. I don't think I'd want to pay $1,600, although it's a good scope. No TDS with Zeiss, of course.

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holding that high powered glass still was quite a chore.


The high powered glass has nothing to do with holding still. One moves just as much with open sights as with a 18X scope. It's just the scope allows one to see the wobble.


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Your are correct. But that's not sure how it felt out there, trying to kill a speed goat, all that wobble driving me nuts.

I like the option of the ranging function being independent of scope power. It just makes things a lot easier.

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The cheapest z6 I see now is $2200

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
I had a 1" Swaro with the TDS reticle. Because of the SFP, it had to be at full power to work. The top end on this scope was 18X and using a Harris Bipod, trying to kill a Pronghorn at 385 yds, holding that high powered glass still was quite a chore. I made the shot, but traded that scope for a Z5 3.5-18x44 BT, later fitted with an Outdoorsmans turret.

If one was going to use the TDS, a FFP reticle would be the way to go, as it would work at any power setting. I'm now a turret guy, but your FFP, TDS set up makes a lot of sense. I do like the TDS as it's simple, yet effective.

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I actually prefer the second focal plane - but then again I don't have any use for the super high power models. I've got about 30 tds's now including the 5 Z6's and 25 of the AV's in 4-12x50 and 3-10x42 and a few Kahles 3-10x50's. I have no trouble with 10 or 12 power at 300+ yards, which is when I use the holdover reticles. I'm always bedded down on shots past 300 anyway. I just couldn't get used to the FFP and the huge reticle at high power. Little too busy for me. I did try the BT in the Z6 3-18x50 and the crosshair was too fine for me. A buddy just picked up the new Z3 4-12x50 BT with 4W reticle and I might give that one a try.

Lots of great optics out there today - the key is to get what YOUR eyes like, not what your buddy thinks is best.

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The Z3 duplex is good, the Z5 duplex is way too fine, IMHO. My Z5 3.5-18 was sent back to Swaro for a #4 German, which is much better.

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