Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Sad Day for Winchester Model 70 fans

I know it will not bother me any.

Savage American Classic is lookin' better all the time...

Heck, I won't even pack one with BACO on the barrel. But I've probably got enough to not have to worry much about that anyway.

I think that there is something deeper going on. My guess is that people aren't buying as many of the FN Model 70 Super grades and Cabelas specials. These have much more qc than regular plain jane sporters. Have you folks seen very many of the extreme weather Model 70 Sporters(blued not stainless) that sold for around 6 benjamins?
Nope.....They sold quickly.

People are willing to buy the bottom models but are not springing for the high grades. FNH has been experimenting. I have seen Model 70 Ftw high grades with better wood and they aren't going.
Notice the Jack O'Connor tributes for sale on gb or gunsamerica. There were about 400 made and there are about 10-15 presently for sale. Languishing...

FN/Browning just realized that people don't want a 9 lb wood stocked rifle(Alaskan) and looked at that as a possible solution.

This was the case with some of the ideas behind NH production. Yesterday, I ran into a NH production stealth in 223wssm that was still on the new gun shelf. Not alot of demand for it in North Pole, Alaska.

The Obama stuff has to figure in as well.

I have been happy with my BACOs but I had to take them to the local gunsmith to fix the triggers. They have been accurate.
We will see on my JOC tribute when I get it freed from layaway but that is going to happen after I buy 30 more AR type magpul 30 round clips. Some stuff you have to buy before the nutjobs make more laws.

Sincerely,
Thomas

Glad I'm a Ruger fan!

I currently own one Winchester, the only one I've ever owned. It's a Pre 64 220Swift.

After learning of this news, I might try a Winchester again. In Canada we respect our neighbours to the south, but their industrial products, not so much.

My experience with USA made hunting firearms has been so disappointing that I have bought nothing but European manufactured guns for a few years now. I got rid of my last Remington a couple weeks ago. good riddance.

Guns made in the USA have been sold to the "lowest bidder" for so long that quality has been completely sacrificed to the low price. I will willingly pay more for quality, but after buying my last half dozen Remington and Winchester and Marlin firearms and having to "tweak" or "tune" or otherwise make do with crap I'm done with them. I have never had a Merkel, Sauer, Krieghoff, CZ, Sako or other European gun need any sort of customizing to make it fully functional.

Maybe its time for the American consumer to realize what the lowest possible price is doing to their products and to their industries?

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Fuggin nailed it. end of discussion

Spot on. We produce an unbelievable amount of shidt that folks call "good",and sell it to a population reared on ever declining quality.Can't blame the consumer necessarily because if you are raised on crap you will think crap is "good".

I sure hope Winchester doesn't stop making their 25" tubed, 9 pound 30/06 Alaskan rifle. Can't think of a better rifle for tromping around Alaska than an over 10 pound, all up, 30/06...

Poifect!

Alot of truth to that after I got this rifle...



I see what the others were talking about.

They have been assembling BAR's and shotguns in Portugal for a long time. I have not heard of any problems connecting with said product so I don't know where you get the QC nightmare from. I don't like the idea that they are being made outside the USA but FN is an international company and can do whatever the phug they want.

Since when did the South Carolina FN plant become Union?

If those Portugese fellows can manage to make a few with the bolt handles over on the other side I will gladly hold my nose in disgust as I buy a couple or three.

So now we will have

pre-64's
post-64's
Classics
Bacos

Who would have thought?

My best guess is dwindling profits and Obamacare pushed them off the edge.

So, maybe I missed the post, but is there a link to the announcement? I looked around on Facebook and couldn't find anything, not even an official Winchester (guns) page, just one for Winchester ammo. I'd hate to think we allcwent nutzo for nothing! (And I still want to get a .22-250 Featherweight, as a .250 Savage project).

"The gun will still be made in the USA only now just assembled in Portugal."


Silly me. Here and I thought assembly was PART of making a gun.

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And now Port Bacos.

Awesome.