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The photo of the Isreali teacher carrying her rifle as she escorts her class makes me wonder..
What if the USA , like Isreal, Switzerland and other "civilized" nations had manditory armed service for all?
Ok not 100%.. some religious groups could and should be able to chose CO status and serve in the Red Cross or other in country relief. My cousin married a young man during Viet Nam who did just that. They both went into nursing.
But if all were trained and instructed the mystique and mystery of gun handling ( and fear ) would be lessened.
Open carry by legal citizens would not bring the law into a Steak and Shake..
Sure hoolums and thugs would still carry ( as they do now )
but they too would have law abiding citizens to fear as well.
And less "targets".
My teaching daughter would have no problem qualifying with a rifle.
What about yours?
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Make prior active military service a prereq for any carry laws in the nation.
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And they can spend there summers working a farm up till time to enlist, cutting cedar trees for fence posts and splitting 'em four ways with a sledge and wedges would be good for the self absorbed little pukes.
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I absolutely believe that we should have mandatory service. Either in the Military, the Salvation Army, or at VA hospitals.
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2/3rds of all teenagers are pansy's today. Unless the military needs cell phone texters & Xbox players there gonna be useless.
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I absolutely believe that we should have mandatory service. Either in the Military, the Salvation Army, or at VA hospitals. Young folk today need to know well, hard-work, dirt, sweat, blood, and the value of earning a dollar and doing good works for others. Gunner
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The military SHOULDN'T be a social program. Seems lots sits right on the shoulders of parents.
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it would dilute the fighting force significantly. any person who wants to serve can, and usually does and does a good job. if you force people into it you will end up with a bunch of disgruntled slackers with guns. while i can understand the sentiment, i have seen the reality as a draft era vet. a smaller, better equipped fighting force is what we need. not a bloated, underfunded, under equipped force that doesn't want to be there. a better idea is to have the schools teach gun safety and preparation for irresponsible gun use. the nras eddie eagle program is a good start. most people don't know how guns work. thats why these knuckleheads can shoot, reload, shoot, reload while everyone cowers. in the military you are taught to wait for the opposing force to reload and then advance and kill them. if one person had ran towards the source of the bullets and tried to stop it, instead of using their bodies as passive shields this type of act would end quicker. easy to say, i know, and hard to do. but that is what training will do for you. it will let instinct take over from fear.
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I only mention the military as one of the options in the CT public service plan for Americans.
Other options will include service at National Parks, the peace corps, and US Corps of Engineers.
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If the military needs them I'm all for it but if the primary desire for mandatory service is to assist in the upbringing of kids I am opposed. Why would you want the Feds involved in the raising of your children? The Military is not a babysitter!
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it would dilute the fighting force significantly. any person who wants to serve can, and usually does and does a good job. if you force people into it you will end up with a bunch of disgruntled slackers with guns. while i can understand the sentiment, i have seen the reality as a draft era vet. a smaller, better equipped fighting force is what we need. not a bloated, underfunded, under equipped force that doesn't want to be there. a better idea is to have the schools teach gun safety and preparation for irresponsible gun use. the nras eddie eagle program is a good start. most people don't know how guns work. thats why these knuckleheads can shoot, reload, shoot, reload while everyone cowers. in the military you are taught to wait for the opposing force to reload and then advance and kill them. if one person had ran towards the source of the bullets and tried to stop it, instead of using their bodies as passive shields this type of act would end quicker. easy to say, i know, and hard to do. but that is what training will do for you. it will let instinct take over from fear. "cream" always floats to the top.....
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How about this? You have to serve to be a citizen that can vote. Must be willing to fight and die for it before you have a say at all.
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So if the military is the way to set kids straight, what happened with Tim McVeigh?
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Yeah, we can write it up that way. You can start voting as soon as you complete your national service contract.
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The photo of the Isreali teacher carrying her rifle as she escorts her class makes me wonder..
What if the USA , like Isreal, Switzerland and other "civilized" nations had manditory armed service for all?
Ok not 100%.. some religious groups could and should be able to chose CO status and serve in the Red Cross or other in country relief. My cousin married a young man during Viet Nam who did just that. They both went into nursing.
But if all were trained and instructed the mystique and mystery of gun handling ( and fear ) would be lessened.
Open carry by legal citizens would not bring the law into a Steak and Shake..
Sure hoolums and thugs would still carry ( as they do now )
but they too would have law abiding citizens to fear as well.
And less "targets".
My teaching daughter would have no problem qualifying with a rifle.
What about yours?
I am and always will be with you 110% on this one. I have ALWAYS believed that EVERY person before age 21 should HAVE to serve the country in some fashion. NO QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERIOD..........
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Make prior active military service a prereq for any carry laws in the nation. What part of shall not infringe don't you understand you are caving to the anti's. But say manditory armed service its sure a great way to build the ranks of oberry's brown shirts.
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The military SHOULDN'T be a social program. Seems lots sits right on the shoulders of parents. I'm with Scott here... The worst thing that you could do TO our men and women in uniform is to saddle them with a bunch of whinny brats that don't actually want to be there and are forced against their will... Unit cohesion would fall to pieces and the effectiveness of any unit would plummet. Disciplinary issues would bog down commanders to where they wouldn't be able to do anything else. Yeah, I oppose this idea in the same manner that I oppose the draft. The reason our military is SO powerful and effective is because it's all voluntary.
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Make prior active military service a prereq for any carry laws in the nation. What part of shall not infringe don't you understand you are caving to the anti's. I'd even take that a step farther and ask about the whole unalienable right to life that was endowed upon us by our Creator?
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It would be just one more chance for the Government to help mold the minds of our nation's youth.
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