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I thought that they did something different too it and made it expand at a lower velocity.
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SB 301 would allow Georgians to use lawfully-possessed silencers (also referred to as suppressors) on firearms for hunting.
While silencers/suppressors do not eliminate the sound of a firearm, they do reduce the muzzle report of a firearm much in the same way that a muffler reduces exhaust noise from a car or truck. There are many benefits to silencers/suppressors: (1) they increase accuracy, (2) make shooting more enjoyable by lessening felt recoil and reducing muzzle blast, (3) protect shooters� hearing and (4) help reduce noise pollution.
Noise complaints are causing closures of shooting ranges, informal shooting areas and hunting lands throughout the country. Increased use of suppressors on shooting ranges and hunting lands will decrease these detrimental complaints.
While a committee hearing has not yet been scheduled for SB 301, please call AND e-mail members of the state Senate Natural Resources and the Environment Committee and respectfully urge them to support SB 301. Contact information can be found below.
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I guess I will call on Monday. Its probably too late for my hearing but maybe others can benefit.
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Hard to argue with that. That is exactly what the BO needs, bullets designed specifically for it's velocity parameters. I sure the 125 Ballistic tip would also be a winner at a reduced cost.
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That 110 grain Barnes, along with the availability of reasonably priced factory ammo and brass is what pushed me over the edge on the 300 Blackout.
I have only had one AR before. It was a 25WSSM from DTech. With its relatively long heavy fluted barrel, I just didn't like the feel of it. Just too heavy. And of course, the magazines and bolt were unique to the round.
And though I'd love an AR10 in a 308-based round, they are REALLY too heavy for my liking.
I always liked the feel of the AR carbines, and for hunting deer in the thickets a semi-auto offers a definite advantage. But for hunting deer in the thick woods where I often hunt them, I just can't like the 5.56 round. With ballistics similar to the 30-30 and 7.62x39, the 300BLK should handle shots in this terrain easily (10-100 yard shots are far more common than 100-200 yard shots).
I remember when Ruger announced the Mini-30. I figured it might be near-perfect for deer in the thickets. Maybe it is, but when the reports of poor accuracy surfaced, I just never jumped on-board. I am sure some of the accuracy issues were due to running .308 bullets in the obligatory .311 bore of the 7.62x39. I am not aware that anybody has a workaround for this yet, but it seems to me that if you have a 7.62x39 that is accurate with .308 bullets, you are a very lucky SOB.
So, I jumped onboard and bought a 16" Noveske Rogue Hunter in 300BLK. I like the SAAMI approval, the reasonably priced factory ammo and brass, and the Barnes 110 bullet. And after my experience with the 25WSSM the fact that only the barrel changes (the BLK uses standard magazines and standard bolt) is a big deal to me.
This AR feels right to me now, and I feel comfortable hunting deer with this round at 200 yards and under. I think I am going to like it a lot.
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I shot some 125 gr in my CMMG a couple weeks ago. It seemed to do well, at least at 50 yards.
Can someone suggest a load for the 110 gr Barnes?
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hogdon online has data for the BLK http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.aspwe load a lot of H110/296 for 110 to 130 gr.
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Can someone suggest a load for the 110 gr Barnes? Here you go: Barnes 110gr TAC-TX 300BLK loads
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Every time some new 300 BLK product comes out, or something is back in stock, I list it here: https://www.facebook.com/300aacblackout - so if you join the page you will be in the first group of people to know about it.
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where can I buy 1000 rounds of ammo for the BO?
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If the 5.56 is so good, why has the whole AR world been working so hard for so long to replace it?
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Have you lot worked out who has the biggest d!ck yet...?
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No, but we are sure it isn't you
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No, but we are sure it isn't you Heck, I know that...your wife told me.
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You should be sleeping!!!
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It is only 8.44 pm, and I only have to do 3 hours at work tomorrow. Besides, my pocket knife arrived from the States and I am busily fondling it.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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If the 5.56 is so good, why has the whole AR world been working so hard for so long to replace it? [quote=WhelenAway] Mostly out of pure ignorance. Grand pappy's M14 was soooooo much better.
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If you are going to get an AR platform rifle, the 6.8, 7.62x39 or AAC Blackout would be great. If you are going to get a bolt gun, there are far better and more versatile choices.
My "kids" gun is a 250 Savage. Low recoil, quite accurate and kills awesome. This rifle has killed a half dozen elk and that many deer as well as the various smaller stuff thrown in.
IF I had to do it again, in the current setting, I would choose a 260 Remington. For small shooters, I would load it down and shoot 100 grain Partitions- just like I do in the Savage. Factory ammo abounds and it can be souped up a little for longer shots when they grow a little. There is a lot to be liked about the 260 Remington. Agree. I have a .300 Whisper from SSK with J.D.'s suppressor can. I was amazed how heavy it is, much heavier than I had anticipated. Nevertheless, it's pretty cool suppressed. This one has the switchable piston for sub and supersonic. It can get tricky, staying subsonic. If a load steps over the threshold, the gun cracks and isn't that quiet. That can vary with hot weather, etc. I wouldn't want a .300 Whisper or an ACC Blackout in other than a suppressed AR platform. Just too many other options out there for a bolt gun. IMHO. DF
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Grand pappy's M14 was soooooo much better. I'll take the 7.62x51 The platform may be a compromise, but the cartridge performance clearly isn't. To clarify, I don't measure a cartridge or a platform based on the ability to kill people. I never plan on doing that. It seems the 5.56 is up to the task (but a lot of guys would rather be toting a 7.62x39). And for big game hunting, there are just so many (much) better options.
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