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Getting shot down is not heroic. Saving your crew members might not be either. It might be was he was supposed to do. Yet he chose to save himself at the expense of his crew members' lives. That's a coward.

But I'm good with whatever you choose to believe.

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Originally Posted by Jocko_Slugshot
I would choose either GHWB or GWB over the Kenyan any day.


Hell, I'd choose A.E. Newman or a dead cat over the Kenyan. Or both.


I am..........disturbed.

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It sounds like the correct procedure was most likely followed. Then again I am not trying to make a case against a war hero, while trying to deflect criticism against the Muslim. miles


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Originally Posted by Laguna
Getting shot down is not heroic. Saving your crew members might not be either. It might be was he was supposed to do. Yet he chose to save himself at the expense of his crew members' lives. That's a coward.

But I'm good with whatever you choose to believe.


He chose to finish the bombing run. Sounds pretty cowardly to a dip [bleep].

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Sounds like he panicked and took a dive out of a moving aircraft...one that he happened to be flying.

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Originally Posted by 17ACKLEYBEE
Originally Posted by Laguna
Getting shot down is not heroic. Saving your crew members might not be either. It might be was he was supposed to do. Yet he chose to save himself at the expense of his crew members' lives. That's a coward.

But I'm good with whatever you choose to believe.


He chose to finish the bombing run. Sounds pretty cowardly to a dip [bleep].


I'm sure it does to you. But then again, you assuredly do not know what his duty was. His duty was to protect his crew members. He was derelict in that duty. I'm sure his blue blood lineage kept him from court martial. If another pilot had done what Bush did, what would you suppose would have happened to him?


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It sounds like the correct procedure was most likely followed. Then again I am not trying to make a case against a war hero, while trying to deflect criticism against the Muslim. miles


How in God's name was Bush a hero? He did what he singed up to do and what he was paid to do, except for abandoning his crew members. How many pilots didn't return and were not accorded hero status?

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after you've flown a torpedo bomber into Japanese AA and flown a plane that's on fire for a while, I'll maybe give a rip about your opinion on heroes, loser.


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You still here, stupid?

Did you take your government computer when you got shown the door, lightweight?

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after you've flown a torpedo bomber into Japanese AA and flown a plane that's on fire for a while, I'll maybe give a ratfuck about your opinion on heroes, loser.


I thought you were sending you son to a gay bath house? BTW, is he gay? If not, why in God's name would you send him to a gay bath house?

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I've never considered Bush a "hero" but have always respected his service. I don't feel it necessary to praise or condemn the man when I wasn't in his shoes.

Which branch of the service did you serve in, Laguna, to judge the man? Which armed conflicts did you take part in? I'm assuming, based only on a summation of your past comments, that you're of an age to have overlapped at least a couple.

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To pry you loose from another kid, coward.


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George, I doubt that I'm giving you any news here, but you are jousting with our new #1 troll/azzhole...


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Originally Posted by Laguna
Originally Posted by 17ACKLEYBEE
Originally Posted by Laguna
Getting shot down is not heroic. Saving your crew members might not be either. It might be was he was supposed to do. Yet he chose to save himself at the expense of his crew members' lives. That's a coward.

But I'm good with whatever you choose to believe.


He chose to finish the bombing run. Sounds pretty cowardly to a dip [bleep].


I'm sure it does to you. But then again, you assuredly do not know what his duty was. His duty was to protect his crew members. He was derelict in that duty. I'm sure his blue blood lineage kept him from court martial. If another pilot had done what Bush did, what would you suppose would have happened to him?



His duty was to take out the objective dip [bleep] it's clear you've seen very little service time.

But say aren't you trolling a little fast?

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Which branch of the service did you serve in, Laguna, to judge the man? Which armed conflicts did you take part in? I'm assuming, based only on a summation of your past comments, that you're of an age to have overlapped at least a couple.
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He's a low level government worker bee who couldn't cut it in the competitive world. He's a coward who tries to elevate his lower than whale schit status by pretending to be something he isn't.

He's a Renee and while Renee could someday grow up,this ragoofus fraud has wasted his entire life being a malcontented, under-achieving loser.


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Originally Posted by Steve_NO
after you've flown a torpedo bomber into Japanese AA and flown a plane that's on fire for a while, I'll maybe give a rip about your opinion on heroes, loser.


Vincent Bugliosi was absolutely right. Scott O'Grady was not a hero. He was shot down doing his job. The true heroes were the men who volunteered to go in harm's way to rescue him.

Steve, I don't expect you to understand Bugliosi's thesis because he's a real deal trail attorney. He was ranked as the best attorney in America, while you were ranked best gay bath house attorney.

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Originally Posted by 17ACKLEYBEE
Originally Posted by Laguna
Originally Posted by 17ACKLEYBEE
Originally Posted by Laguna
Getting shot down is not heroic. Saving your crew members might not be either. It might be was he was supposed to do. Yet he chose to save himself at the expense of his crew members' lives. That's a coward.

But I'm good with whatever you choose to believe.


He chose to finish the bombing run. Sounds pretty cowardly to a dip [bleep].


I'm sure it does to you. But then again, you assuredly do not know what his duty was. His duty was to protect his crew members. He was derelict in that duty. I'm sure his blue blood lineage kept him from court martial. If another pilot had done what Bush did, what would you suppose would have happened to him?



His duty was to take out the object dip [bleep] it's clear you've seen very little service time.

But say aren't you trolling a little fast?


Are you trying to convey that doing one's duty, doing what one agreed to do and was paid to do, makes him a hero? Using your reasoning or lack thereof, my garbage man is a hero. God only knows how many hazardous materials he has to handle every day.

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Originally Posted by NH K9
I've never considered Bush a "hero" but have always respected his service. I don't feel it necessary to praise or condemn the man when I wasn't in his shoes.

Which branch of the service did you serve in, Laguna, to judge the man? Which armed conflicts did you take part in? I'm assuming, based only on a summation of your past comments, that you're of an age to have overlapped at least a couple.

George



NH K9,

Your reasoning is deeply flawed. Since you've never been president, you're incapable of judging the "man".


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LOL I say again you're trolling way to fast and using crap for bait.


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Originally Posted by 17ACKLEYBEE
LOL I say again you're trolling way to fast and using crap for bait.


But you're biting crap bait.

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