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Originally Posted by GrimJim
With my prescription I have to turn the focus ring out which shortens the useable eye relief. The eye relief has to protect my glasses not my eyebrow. I have tried 3.5" eye relief on several very good scopes (Swarovski, Kahles) and it is not comfortable.

The Zeiss Conquest series up to 3-9X40 were a godsend. As I don't need higher power or power ratios, I am happy that I have a lifetime supply of the current choices. If you find something you are happy with, buy several before they discontinue or change them.

The large oculars and etched reticles are a welcome bonus.


Yes but the eye relief on the Conquest 3-9x40 is 4" at the minimum

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Lockable turrets, does this mean they won't spin on your pack, any pics of these turrets, how do they lock??

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They seem really heavy - especially the 5-25x50. It is more than 1/2 lb heavier than Swarovski's 5-25x52 Z5.

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I also wear glasses. and adjusting the ocular out is only going to take away half inch at most. I have never come close to hitting my glasses with any of the scopes I have ran, which includes probably about 10 brands total.

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The ocular adjustment changes the optical properties as well as the physical. I have hit my glasses with a scope and can assure you that the rubber and spring-loaded ocular on the Swarovski PH series is there for a reason.

The point is that many of these posts extrapolate from the personal to the universal. This is not necessarily useful to some of us.

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Yeah it definitely looks like a nice scope, price increase definitely makes a guy weigh the value vs some other really good scopes but maybe its worth it. I realy like the darker z-plex reticles on the standard conquest for low light shooting so I am not sure on the thickness of the bars on this new Conquest. Shorter eye relief has me concerned too unless it has an awesome eyebox that offsets it. A 3-15 with standard plex and target turrets seems real appealing though, but $900 makes you really have to consider a Swaro Z3 too. If it was in the $600 range it would make the decision making a little easier. Im sure guys here will give em a run and let us know.


More then the eye relief is the issue with weight and its "new Price". I haven't looked at one in person but for the price,eye relief and weight I will look at a Z3,Leupold VX-6 and if my finances fall off the cliff a BL 2-10x40


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Guys keep mentioning shorter eye relief. Shorter than what? The 2-10x42 has 90 mm which is over 3.5". Most of the Conquests are 3.5". The 3-9x40 being a notable exception.


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Why would the 2-10 weigh more than the 3-15? (2-10 17.5oz vs. 3-15 15.2oz)


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Originally Posted by AdkHunter
Why would the 2-10 weigh more than the 3-15? (2-10 17.5oz vs. 3-15 15.2oz)


On Zeiss' website the 3-15 is listed as 18.4 oz

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The 3-15 is interesting.

I really need to get eyeballs on one of these here newfangled x5 or x6 zoom scopes. In a little skeptical that bottom end is still nice. For myself, I can work with about anything on the top end; I have my preferences but full magnification implies a longer shot which means there's some time to accommodate the scope's needs by adjusting my position, etc. Not so with the bottom end; that's "throw your rifle up and slap the trigger" time, there. So, on that 3-15x42 I'm actually much more concerned with the 3x optical properties.


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When you're in Grants Pass give me a call and we can hook up. You can take as long as you would like to look at the 5X and 6 1/2X scope I have. Both are perfectly clear throughout their ranges.

A surprise is the 5X appears to have a larger field of view than the 4 1/2X.


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Why would the 2-10 weigh more than the 3-15? (2-10 17.5oz vs. 3-15 15.2oz)


On Zeiss' website the 3-15 is listed as 18.4 oz


Heavier than I would prefer, but it wouldn't cause me not to buy one. I look at the whole package.

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I looked at these today at the DSC convention and they seem to be a step up from the conquest we are all familiar with.
The glass is very nice in the 10x, 15x and 25x.
Eye relief is very adequate and did not feel short.
I was hand-holding these in a convention hall so take it as you will.
I liked the view through the 25x the best. It popped nicely.
Was not overly impressed with the 3-15x42 but I do like a 50mm obj and am stout enough to tote a couple extra ounces.
The exposed turret on the 25x was tactile and precise. Well executed. I would assume the same on the 15x equally equipped but there was not one there with turret to look at.
The ocular assembly is large, at least as large as the conquest.

They had a 1.5-6x42 HT on display and all I can say is OMG!! That scope had some fantastic glass, huge "eyebox" and was very impressive overall. Had I the need for a scope of that power range I'd be showing ya'll pictures all up in here. Makes me want to buy a 375HH just to have a platform for that beotch.

With all that said, I am trying to resist the 5-25x50 for my pdog rig. It is veddy nice.
Watch out Swaro Z3 and Z5. There's some competion in the house.

PS....they are discontinuing quite a few Conquest models and retaining only 6 or so of the current models. Watch for closeout pricing on the discontinued models if you are in the market. The models they are keeping have been reduced in price as well.

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That 1.5-6x42 would be pretty cool on my blacktail .358 I bet. Currently it has a 1.8-5.5x38 Conquest.

They've been discontinuing Conquests for a while now. The 4x, 2.5-8, 1.8-5.5.... all gone already.


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I realize that but this is more of a mass exodus.

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What didn't you like about the 3-15 x42 ?

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Watch out Swaro Z3 and Z5. There's some competion in the house.


They are too heavy to be competition for the z3 and z5.


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The infatuation of flyweight scopes makes no sense to me.
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Originally Posted by RHutch
The infatuation of flyweight scopes makes no sense to me.
Eat a Wheatie.


Its not just flyweight scopes, its lightweight rifles that they don't want to put big heavy scopes on. Gotta remember Hutch, a lot of guys hunt very differently than Texans do. If your hiking miles up and down hills or mountains the idea of a lightweight package in your hands is quite appealing. If your sitting in a box blind it doesn't matter if it weighs 30 lbs all up.

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I understand all that but it gets a little silly when 2 or 3 ounces makes or breaks it.

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