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Anyone wanna speculate? I hope it was like lastime bout 6months then prices fell way down an all the panic buyers lost their ash


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Depends upon whether the Communist Party gets the gun laws their after through Congress. Things are different this time around as Dear Leader isn't seeking re-election. Obunghole, Feinstein, Schumer, Bloomberg, McCarthy, Lieberman, and the rest of the usual suspects will go for broke this time around. Prices may never come down.

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Yep, it depends upon what the gun-grabbers get pushed through, until then it's just wait and see. If Obama and the other commies get their way then those $2500 AR's might be a good investment after all. There's just no way to tell right now, if their efforts get shot down then I'd expect six months is a good prediction for prices to come back down.

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In the end, and as fast as end of January its theoretically possible that you'll never be able to transfer one ever again, and will have to register them and pay a 200 buck tax on each one.

BUT the way it may and should go is nothing changes. Enforce laws. Beef up securtiy some. Work on mental issues. Mental issues are the issue almost always in these cases. Not gun issues.

It could also fall anywhere in between.

I don't see prices falling regardless for at least 3 months.

And I'm almost laughing at all those I told you so's I've run into lately... I mean how damn many years did you want before you bought.

I'd like Gold to go back to about 350 an ounce too so I could buy some.. but I screwed up big time there....


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About like last time.......powder and bullets/ primers were going like crazy at the gun show too

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I am thinking 3-4 years, if nothing goes through. Just too much panic, and then people not wanting to admit they made a bad purchase.

I mean, really, I live in Anchorage, AK, and people are clearing out the shelves of all powders, all primers, and all .22 bullets.

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When the AWB fails to pass, if it does.

Alternatively? If it isn't proposed... Don't know. I'd say a year, at least.

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JustOne, if it's only one thing that fetid hag FeinSwine wants to get introduced, voted on, sent to conference committee, voted out of committee and voted on in both chambers is this bill to essentially incinerate the Second, as well as the entirety of the remainder of our God-given Freedoms. We are dealing with what is essentially a hard-line Communist in Feinswine with not more than a touch of National Socialist thrown in for spite.

And she's (or it's) not alone. There are many, many of her ilk in Congress who are beyond ecstatic that Newtown happened. If it could ever be discovered, I have no doubts the Freedom-haters in Congress (and that one in the Oval Orifice) are enraged that the death toll did not eclipse that of Beslan. Twenty-some is good, but several hundred would have brought even bigger smiles to their ugly mugs. Only liberals are overjoyed when innocents die at the hands of a nutcase with a gun. Allows said liberals to destroy your Freedom-- you whom did NOTHING.

I believe Freedom as we've known it for so long is on a collision-course with tyranny as the Godless libs would like it instituted in America. We have a Kenyan Marxist in my White House whom, as he has amply demonstrated, has no use for the Constitution. He adheres to what he likes and disregards that which he hates-- which is most of it. The Constitution limits the power of government. The Kenyan hates a limited government. He has so much as said so, just not in words so direct. The Bill of Rights codifies what the government cannot do, while it guarantees the power of the People over government. The Kenyan hates that the People hold the power, albeit with the agreement that the People allow themselves to be governed until such a time as their trust and faith fails. We are very near those days. Not surprising, considering what we elected in 2008 and then again in 2012.

No statute law trumps the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. I see FeinSwine's bill taking us to the Supreme Court where Freedom will either prevail and forever, or we lose a massive part of our souls as Americans which will ultimately lead to us losing every Freedom we have. And that is the goal of the liberals. Make no mistake. What do you think nazional healthscare is?

When a government controls the mechanism through which you receive healthscare, it will eventually control your life down to the most minute attribute. Own a gun? Turn it in. Ride dirtbikes? No longer. Skydive? Not anymore. Scubadive? You've done your last one, buddy. Any behavior in which you engage that the government deems to be "too dangerous" and will (in their opinion) "impact healthscare costs" is verboten. Won't be long before all we can do is come home and sit in front of our TVs, remotely-tuned to the 24-hour Kenyan Channel that tells us incessantly how wonderful and "historic" he is. Not for what our fathers fought in World War II...


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Wow...only your sixth post but you hit that one absolutely out of the [bleep] park. I could not agree with you more.

And as far as that ugly old dried-up drag queen wannabee Feinstein...I hate that [bleep] old bitch and whatever painful death the old hag endures won't be enough. I hope she get the most painful form of cancer imaginable and suffers for years. [bleep] the bitch.

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Originally Posted by rost495
In the end, and as fast as end of January its theoretically possible that you'll never be able to transfer one ever again, and will have to register them and pay a 200 buck tax on each one.

BUT the way it may and should go is nothing changes. Enforce laws. Beef up securtiy some. Work on mental issues. Mental issues are the issue almost always in these cases. Not gun issues.

It could also fall anywhere in between.

I don't see prices falling regardless for at least 3 months.

And I'm almost laughing at all those I told you so's I've run into lately... I mean how damn many years did you want before you bought.

I'd like Gold to go back to about 350 an ounce too so I could buy some.. but I screwed up big time there....
We have a lot of advantages that we didn't have in 1994 with possibly the biggest one being a greater awareness of the 2nd Amendment and its true meaning over a greater number and cross section of people. The smart money should be on nothing happening. However, with Obama's election in the first place, a SCOTUS win on Obamacare and a re-election literally pulled out of his asss, the odds have to change. I still have to go with the numbers on this and say we will be okay, but...

Just today there is another article up on Yahoo where they evidently detail how O and his ilk are going for much broader changes than the original AWB...and why not? O has nothing to lose. Swing for the fences.

As long as these articles are before the public's face the prices will stay up with the only wild card being enough people running out of money and credit-which I thought was gonna happen long before now.

I am all for the free market applied to guns and AR's specifically. That said, it's too bad that those that have them have went nuts and it's limiting people getting ahold of them that want them. More AR's out there mean greater security for the people of the US, more people who are definitely not wanting them banned, more awareness of their usages for more than self-defense and more visibility to the general public with the possible effect of not only making them want them, think they're cool, etc. but also desensitizing their fears. It also could have negative effects, but it's too early in the morning to go there.

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Cyclically After shot show firearm availability generally changes, so I would say after that

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
The smart money should be on nothing happening.


I hope the GOP realizes that their continued relevance is riding on the outcome of this fight, but I'm not especially optimistic.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by rost495
In the end, and as fast as end of January its theoretically possible that you'll never be able to transfer one ever again, and will have to register them and pay a 200 buck tax on each one.

BUT the way it may and should go is nothing changes. Enforce laws. Beef up securtiy some. Work on mental issues. Mental issues are the issue almost always in these cases. Not gun issues.

It could also fall anywhere in between.

I don't see prices falling regardless for at least 3 months.

And I'm almost laughing at all those I told you so's I've run into lately... I mean how damn many years did you want before you bought.

I'd like Gold to go back to about 350 an ounce too so I could buy some.. but I screwed up big time there....
We have a lot of advantages that we didn't have in 1994 with possibly the biggest one being a greater awareness of the 2nd Amendment and its true meaning over a greater number and cross section of people. The smart money should be on nothing happening. However, with Obama's election in the first place, a SCOTUS win on Obamacare and a re-election literally pulled out of his asss, the odds have to change. I still have to go with the numbers on this and say we will be okay, but...

Just today there is another article up on Yahoo where they evidently detail how O and his ilk are going for much broader changes than the original AWB...and why not? O has nothing to lose. Swing for the fences.

As long as these articles are before the public's face the prices will stay up with the only wild card being enough people running out of money and credit-which I thought was gonna happen long before now.

I am all for the free market applied to guns and AR's specifically. That said, it's too bad that those that have them have went nuts and it's limiting people getting ahold of them that want them. More AR's out there mean greater security for the people of the US, more people who are definitely not wanting them banned, more awareness of their usages for more than self-defense and more visibility to the general public with the possible effect of not only making them want them, think they're cool, etc. but also desensitizing their fears. It also could have negative effects, but it's too early in the morning to go there.


no flame intended but you say you we will be okay.

Whats a definition of ok?

I"m only saying this may well be the time to draw the line in the sand and just say no to anything new unless its do away with gun free zones and like our governor proposes, allow CHL in ALL public places and so on.

Anything, even a mag ban, is ridiculous. And at some point once you allow them enough, like Martin Neimoeller found, its too late.


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Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoiler
Wow...only your sixth post but you hit that one absolutely out of the [bleep] park. I could not agree with you more.

And as far as that ugly old dried-up drag queen wannabee Feinstein...I hate that [bleep] old bitch and whatever painful death the old hag endures won't be enough. I hope she get the most painful form of cancer imaginable and suffers for years. [bleep] the bitch.


Don't forget hypocrite....she carries a .357 on her and has armed bodyguards wink


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Originally Posted by rost495
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In the end, and as fast as end of January its theoretically possible that you'll never be able to transfer one ever again, and will have to register them and pay a 200 buck tax on each one.

BUT the way it may and should go is nothing changes. Enforce laws. Beef up securtiy some. Work on mental issues. Mental issues are the issue almost always in these cases. Not gun issues.

It could also fall anywhere in between.

I don't see prices falling regardless for at least 3 months.

And I'm almost laughing at all those I told you so's I've run into lately... I mean how damn many years did you want before you bought.

I'd like Gold to go back to about 350 an ounce too so I could buy some.. but I screwed up big time there....
We have a lot of advantages that we didn't have in 1994 with possibly the biggest one being a greater awareness of the 2nd Amendment and its true meaning over a greater number and cross section of people. The smart money should be on nothing happening. However, with Obama's election in the first place, a SCOTUS win on Obamacare and a re-election literally pulled out of his asss, the odds have to change. I still have to go with the numbers on this and say we will be okay, but...

Just today there is another article up on Yahoo where they evidently detail how O and his ilk are going for much broader changes than the original AWB...and why not? O has nothing to lose. Swing for the fences.

As long as these articles are before the public's face the prices will stay up with the only wild card being enough people running out of money and credit-which I thought was gonna happen long before now.

I am all for the free market applied to guns and AR's specifically. That said, it's too bad that those that have them have went nuts and it's limiting people getting ahold of them that want them. More AR's out there mean greater security for the people of the US, more people who are definitely not wanting them banned, more awareness of their usages for more than self-defense and more visibility to the general public with the possible effect of not only making them want them, think they're cool, etc. but also desensitizing their fears. It also could have negative effects, but it's too early in the morning to go there.


no flame intended but you say you we will be okay.

Whats a definition of ok?

I"m only saying this may well be the time to draw the line in the sand and just say no to anything new unless its do away with gun free zones and like our governor proposes, allow CHL in ALL public places and so on.

Anything, even a mag ban, is ridiculous. And at some point once you allow them enough, like Martin Neimoeller found, its too late.
I wouldn't have taken it as a flame anyway, but you haven't been reading enough of my comments if you don't know. Many of them have been right along with yours.

My line in the sand was crossed in 1986 when McClure Volkmer was passed and has been crossed since then. It would have been farther back had I been old enough to buy guns back before the '68 GCA was passed.

"Okay" simply means no new laws. My opinion matters little, but I think the anti's are going to push very hard in the hopes they can demoralize us enough that when they get something like all sales going through FFL's (de-facto registration), we will all sit back and say "whew, we won," when in fact we lost big-time. I think we are gaining ground as far as educating people on lots of the big points...the true meaning of the 2nd Amendment, straight up registration, etc., but we need to hammer the finer points and make sure folks know that we have already compromised on the 2nd where we shouldn't have.

I probably shouldn't have said "okay" because to me, we're not okay now and won't be until several existing laws are repealed and we no longer have to constantly worry about some politician trampling our rights.

I don't mean to be overly-positive as some of our well-meaning friends on here seem constantly to be. But I certainly don't want to be overly-negative either because the danger in that is the aforementioned demoralization and tendancy towards compromise due to it. The most valuable scouts and spies in olden times were the ones that neither overestimated nor underestimated the enemy's strength, because accuracy is the best policy. It is true here too. We have a lot of tangibles on our side, but the seeming intangibles of Obama at this point, must be considered too.

Bottom-line...where I'm at is rolling back gun control, not furthering it.

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Wow...only your sixth post but you hit that one absolutely out of the [bleep] park. I could not agree with you more.

And as far as that ugly old dried-up drag queen wannabee Feinstein...I hate that [bleep] old bitch and whatever painful death the old hag endures won't be enough. I hope she get the most painful form of cancer imaginable and suffers for years. [bleep] the bitch.


Don't forget hypocrite....she carries a .357 on her and has armed bodyguards wink
Magnumdood called her "Swinestein". I'd never heard that one before. lol

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That's creative and funny, but very unfair to pigs on all levels.


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Ethan

I assumed the same, RE you and I on same page I just wanted to clarify it a bit. I don't want anyone thinking anything more is ok.

And I'm with you on 86. None of that chit made a bit of a difference and luckily the AWB sunsetted proving it was of no use....

Jeff


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I have a better question. When are Americans going to quit accepting infringements on their basic human rights?

I don't lump all in the same pot, but how long has it been since some of you have read the Declaration of Independence, and specifically dared to compare it to todays usurpations?

If anything passes, and we sit on our laurels and do nothing, then we get exectly what we deserve for not recognizing the time to stand.

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I agree. IMHO you have to somewhat pick your battle. IE the timing of this. But at this point, I don't think that we have any other choice, moving forward is the end of the country overall, RE freedoms and rights as I see it.

Had you stood up 20 or 30 years ago you'd have not had nearly as many on your side and many that thought you were nuts.

I really don't have time to put up with pelosi/fienstein/obama bullshit at this point in my life. Life was about to get really grand for us, caught up on many things, preparing for the future etc...

BUT I don't have a choice at all and must do what the founding fathers declared, and thats protect.

So off we go I suppose, much as I hate having to deal with it.


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