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Originally Posted by Fireball2
.....asking what the Toyota's get for mileage.





I've had 5 of the new body style Tacoms. All but one was a V6 Double cab 4x4. The best averaged 19.8 and the worst 18.4. The 4 banger 4x4 extended cab averaged 21.9.


By comparison, I had a 2005 Chevy Silverado crew cab 4x4 5.3 that got 16.8 and an 2011 Chevy Silverado(same) that averaged 16.2.


You're not gaining that much difference over a full size truck. Especially the Ford with the 5.0 or V6 ecoboost. For the person driving around 15,000 miles a year, the difference is only about $400 in gas at $3.50 a gallon. It boils down to what suites you the best.

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One reason people buy Tacomas besides having rock solid reliability is because they also have one of the best resale values out there.


Toyota tops U.S. in recalls with 5.3M

Washington � Toyota Motor Corp. recalled more vehicles � 5.3 million � than any other automaker in the U.S. in 2012.

It was the third time in the last four years that Toyota led in U.S. recalls.


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My window sticker says 16 city and 21 hwy with an average of 18.



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Yeah, my brother had his Tacoma recalled because the floor mat could move and get caught under the pedal.


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Originally Posted by mack5511
My window sticker says 16 city and 21 hwy with an average of 18.



You can see what others get and record your own mileage here.

http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/tacoma/gas%20v6/truck

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rrroae, that was super helpful, easiest to read format EVER.

No mpg gain over my full size Dodge though, which is a surprise considering what you give up. Not knocking the Toyota's. I drove a Tundra a few years ago and that was hands down the best driving truck I have ever driven. Smooth as glass. The Dodge is no fun.
My run-around is a 1978 Toyota with 60K original, and it averages 25 mpg, but is 2x of course.


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Part of the "math" in truck buying is longevity. Gas engines that are well made can go 150,000 to 200,000 miles . Diesels go 400,000 to a million miles. Over the cost of ownership, a diesel is much cheaper to own.

Look at the resale value of gas and diesel trucks of the same age and mileage and you will understand my point.


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I have a 2001 4x4 extended cab with 118k miles,everything is original except the frame which was a recall. Even the brakes are original! It does seem that they would get better milage though,mine is 20mpg. My rear axel housing(not the cover) is starting to rot and leak so I think this is qoing to be my first repair.

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The word I hear on Tacoma MPG is that the auto trans version gets a bit better MPG than the 6sp manual. This is coming from a young friend of mine who bought the manual without doing his home work and found out after the deal was done.

IIRC, his explanation was that the auto trans models use a different gear ratio in the diff(s).


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Diesels are $20,000 more than a Tacoma ? Hmmm. My 2006 Dodge, 2500, 4WD was $26,700 out the door. When I bought it, nobody would seel me a Tacoma 4WD, w/ the V-6 much cheaper.
As to performance, my Dodge carries a fully loaded, 10 ft. Lance Camper, and tows my Jeep at the speed limit any where I go. That includes crossing mountain ranges like the Sierra Nevada, and the Rockys. No tacoma can come any where near that. E

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My 2007 is my second Tacoma. 4X4, V6, big cab..pulls the duck boat anywhere, any time, any speed...best of all, it's got a lot more US source parts in it than any of the so-called US brands and it doesn't have a UAW sticker on it...had enough of the smoke, mirrors and BS when I worked for GM.


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For those who make fun of Tacoma resale value go and try to buy one.

My 1998 tacoma, v-6 4x4 extended cab has 358,000 miles now. Had a freeze plug replaced recently and power steering motor put in other than maintenance. Only broke down one time, fuel pump, I put it in myself in an hour. Luckily the gas tank only had 5 gallons in it since I had to drop the gas tank. EVERYTHING on the truck still works as it did the day I drove it off the lot in September of 1997.


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My friend has a Landcruiser (his wife's vehicle) and he has a newer ford F250 4 wheel drive with the 7.? (I do not know much about them) diesel engine and the Landcruiser is what he gets when he has to pull something. He says the Ford will not compete with the Landruiser when it comes to pulling and the Ford is 5 years newer.


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Originally Posted by headhunter130
My friend has a Landcruiser (his wife's vehicle) and he has a newer ford F250 4 wheel drive with the 7.? (I do not know much about them) diesel engine and the Landcruiser is what he gets when he has to pull something. He says the Ford will not compete with the Landruiser when it comes to pulling and the Ford is 5 years newer.

Then your friend doesn't know what he's doing. I'd take my V-10 truck over any American Toyota any day and I am a real fan of Toyota. I wish the Tundra was a real 3/4 ton truck.


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he has probably forgotten more about vehicles than you may have ever known. He is a certified master Toyota mechanic and is incredible with vehicles. You can run into other mechanics and mention his name and they almost kneel in awe. He is one of the best there is, I feel pretty sure he knows what he is talking about.


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Fremicus,
Thanks for reporting your excellent diesel experience. It is almost a well kept secret in this country. The poor diesels that came out in the 1970s and 1980s seemed to have soured most people in this country on the technology.

Diesels continue to advance faster than gas engines and are now winning races like the 24 Hours of LeMans against gas engines. With $1000 worth of bolt on parts my Ford 7.3 is now a hot rod capable of 24 mpg on flat country when not towing.


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I wish we could get the toyota diesels here.


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Originally Posted by headhunter130
he has probably forgotten more about vehicles than you may have ever known. He is a certified master Toyota mechanic and is incredible with vehicles. You can run into other mechanics and mention his name and they almost kneel in awe. He is one of the best there is, I feel pretty sure he knows what he is talking about.


Well, I don't consider a 7000# tow capacity real towing. I like to stay below 10% of my rated capacity for a safety margin so it's 3/4 ton or better for me. Just because you can doesn't mean you should but to each his own.


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Originally Posted by headhunter130
I wish we could get the toyota diesels here.


Yeah, they are okay. Nothing earth shattering mind you, I've driven a few in the 'Stan...

Nice shortbed version, normal USA left side steering...

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Different truck (much closer to Pakistan, the first picture being next door to Iran...)

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Later version, right hand drive, after I got hit by a Hadji Jingle truck...

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Lousy shot of the hood, but Pizza Hut from Bagram! OMG!...

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Now here's the truck America needs...

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Yeah brother... Ford Ranger with a diesel.


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Interior shot of diesel Ford Ranger...

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