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Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
Heavywalker: I think your head is either in the clouds or in the sand!
If you think this hussein obama character won't use executive orders to try to infringe on the Second Amendment in any and every way he can, then you simply have another "think" coming.
We are in for an incredibly tough "four years" and executive orders are only going to be part of that!
If hussein gets one more justice on the Supreme Court then the previous rulings on the Second Amendment are "null and void" for all intents and purposes.
I simply think you do not fully understand the horrific nature of hussein obama - he would stop at nothing to "change" this country into the socialist/communist style country he wants.
If you think an "interpretaion" that you and some others have regarding what excutive orders can and cannot do will stop this fiend and his regime from "accomplishing their goals" then you are simply suffering under delusion!
This turd and his merry band of followers is simply worse and more sophisticated than any previous Chicago style thug politician has previoulsy attained!
Never trust a turd or a communist under ANY circumstance - and hussein obama is both those in SPADES.
I fear for the future of our country.
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Originally Posted by Stush
I actually agree with #2 TO AN EXTENT.

I don't think that any of us would argue that the mentally ill should have guns.

I just worry about how loosely "mentally ill" might be defined.

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Originally Posted by nighthawk
Ron, since the issue involves the suspension of a constitutionally protected right I think you'll find there must be a judicial action before those rights can be suspended (barring exigent circumstances, like a guy running around naked and clucking like a chicken).


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Originally Posted by VarmintGuy
Heavywalker: I think your head is either in the clouds or in the sand!
If you think this hussein obama character won't use executive orders to try to infringe on the Second Amendment in any and every way he can, then you simply have another "think" coming.
We are in for an incredibly tough "four years" and executive orders are only going to be part of that!
If hussein gets one more justice on the Supreme Court then the previous rulings on the Second Amendment are "null and void" for all intents and purposes.
I simply think you do not fully understand the horrific nature of hussein obama - he would stop at nothing to "change" this country into the socialist/communist style country he wants.
If you think an "interpretaion" that you and some others have regarding what excutive orders can and cannot do will stop this fiend and his regime from "accomplishing their goals" then you are simply suffering under delusion!
This turd and his merry band of followers is simply worse and more sophisticated than any previous Chicago style thug politician has previoulsy attained!
Never trust a turd or a communist under ANY circumstance - and hussein obama is both those in SPADES.
I fear for the future of our country.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy


Varmitguy

I, in no way, have the illusion that the current occupier in the White House won't do anything and everything that he can to infringe on our second amendment. I am asking which federal law he is going to site to try and over reach his powers. There is not a lot out there that he can use to do all the things the defeatist like yourself are predicting via executive order.

Further it is not my interpretation of what executive orders can or cannot do, it is the opinion of the Supreme Court of the United States of America. Do me a favor and pull your head out of the sand and get educated on what he can, and cannot do via Executive order and try and spread the word and educate others instead of being a defeatist.

We all know what Obama is capable of, the question is what are YOU capable of?








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Originally Posted by Scott F
Originally Posted by nighthawk
Ron, since the issue involves the suspension of a constitutionally protected right I think you'll find there must be a judicial action before those rights can be suspended (barring exigent circumstances, like a guy running around naked and clucking like a chicken).


Oh no! Ya mean I gotta quit that! crazy

Depends, are you producing eggs? Prices are up, might miss the extra income. grin


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How can anyone know about one's mental issues? That's medical and no ones business. If they can get that info, we should have maps with little red dots showing everyone with AIDS.


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Originally Posted by Calhoun
CNN has an article on it, not totally junk.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/10/opinion/avlon-obama-gun-control/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

It lists:

1) Increased prosecutions of lying on the 4473 - 71,000 failed background checks, but only 77 prosecutions
2) Better funding for the NICS database to get those judged mentally ill added to it
3) Increased federal prosecutions of gun crime, to prevent state jails from releasing criminals too early


#2 has to be watched, but can't think of anybody that disagrees with #1/#3. But both of those also fall into "Enforce the laws we have now".


The article also talks about adding in the terrorist watch list, aka the "no-fly" list to NICS. That's an absolute non-starter since there's no oversight or requirements for who gets added, no due process to appeal it, etc.


You are correct, #2 is a very dangerous one if one intends to misuse it and with this adim there is no doubt.


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Um, I can't be asked for an ID to vote, but have to submit to a background check to buy a gun?

Um, no.


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