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Have never owned or even shot one. Pros, cons, best uses? Thinking I might pick one up and stock up on ammo if even halfway comparable to .223. Also would be something my wife and stepdaughter could learn to shoot with. Thanks
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Factory ammo can be expensive. Reloading with Lil' Gun is cheap though. Older guns may have a .223 bore and/or a 1/16 twist, which is too slow to stabilize a 40 gr vmax. Just some things to be aware of.
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The hornet is my favorite centerfire small varmit rifle.
Presently own a Ruger 77V Lam. with a 3.5 X 10 A.O. Leupold.
Also own a .223 and a 204, but the Hornet gets used more.
This gun really "sings" with a 35 grain Vmax.
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Factory ammo can be expensive. Reloading with Lil' Gun is cheap though. Older guns may have a .223 bore and/or a 1/16 twist, which is too slow to stabilize a 40 gr vmax. Just some things to be aware of. You're right on the money with Li'l Gun. At only 13 grains per max charge, a pound goes a looong way and in my gun, a CZ527, it'll push a 40 gr. V-max to an honest 3,000 fps MV. BTW, my gun has a .224", 1/16" twist barrel and it stabilizes the 40 V-max just fine. It definitely didn't like Nosler's 35 gr. lead free BT, though and I suspect it might not shoot the lighter .224" Barnes offerings either.
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Ammo is expensive unless you hand load. Prices run around $40/50. You can get plain .223 ammo for much less. But the Hornet will always have a place. It is quiet,has no recoil, and works well with the new poly tipped bullets out to about 175-200. It is great for populated areas.
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For varmints smaller than coyotes, it's probably ideal. Quiet, cool-shooting, recoil free, loaded with nostalgia, cheap to load for, and just plain effective. When I went out specifically for coyote, I took a bigger gun, but if I spotted a coyote while out with my Hornet I never had a qualm about popping it.
I've owned or used guns in .22 WMR, .22 Hornet, .218 Bee, .219 Zipper, .221 Fireball, and .223 - but the one I most enjoy and treasure is my Hornet. In fact, the only two of those left in my safe now are the Hornet and a .223 so that tells you something.
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I have an old M-70 in 22 Hornet with a 16 twist barrel, it's 24"s and will stabilize the 45 gr TSX's just fine, put one lengthways through a coyote at around 88 yards IIRC, and 14 grs of Lil-Gun will give 2900+ fps, although I do have to seat the bullet in two stages.
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It's funny y'all bring this up. I was thinking along these same lines over the weekend. I have three .223 Rems, and I was wondering if it would be worth trying to pick up a .22 Hornet down the road.
I gather from what y'all are saying, the .22 Hornet does not do anything that a .223 Rem can't do. Right?
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223/5.56 is mucho more better, the little Hornet is just cooler. Gunner
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I've got an old H&R HandiRifle in .22 Hornet that has been pure death on a scandalous amount of crows, pigeons, groundhogs and coyotes.
Like others have mentioned, 40 grain BT's over 13 grains of Lil Gun makes stuff tip over.
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223/5.56 is mucho more better, the little Hornet is just cooler. Gunner Yup.
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Great input and conversation, thank you. Nice to hear how well thought of it is by so many of you. Going to pick it up.
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For times when I don't want the 223's noise or penetration, I just swap out the 223 bolt for my $150 Ciener .22lr conversion unit in my Ar. :-) I realize that right now, AR prices are ridiculous, but that will be fixed in a year or so. The .22 unit weighs only 3/4 lb, so it's easy to carry along with the AR, and it's plenty accurate enoughfor small game, in addition to being a fine "trainer" piece for snapshooting/combat practice, to 75m or so. Which is as far as anyone is going to hit with such type shooting, anyway, while under fire and with no ear protection.
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