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I don't, but if I did, I'd have to buy a .270 and put one of those suction-cup gun racks in it. And then over-compensate for my gayness with one of these:
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I could happily run a .270.
In some alternate reality where [bleep] don't stink, trucks have 4-foot beds and say "Subaru" on them, and women are convex.
Until then I can functionally match it in a short action 7-08 without all the muss and fuss of a long-action powder slut like the.... the.... .270
Ick. I need to go pinch a waitress. I'm considering the source....
The 280 Remington is overbore.
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I could happily run a .270.
Until then I can functionally match it in a short action 7-08 without all the muss and fuss of a long-action powder slut like the.... the.... .270
Ick. I need to go pinch a waitress. Does this mean that you can get 3140 FPS from a 140 grain bullet in the 7-08? I can and have with a 270 win
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Good gosh JWP, I've got a ton load of experience with the .270 and have never seen anything close to 3140 fps out of it with a 140.
You're either running a barrel longer than 26" (which to me is sort of loco unless it's on a #) and or running an incredibly HOT load(which is also well, loco)...
How long a tube and how much of what?
Thx Dober
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I used 63 grains of H-1000 behind the 140 TSX fired from a 29" Krieger barreled M-70
I know I used a longer than normal barrel to get the speed, but I got it none the less
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Yeah 29" is not one's that gonna be seen very often. I figured you to be smart enough to not be redlining something and that those kinds of speeds were most likely tied to something that Bob Seagram would of liked during his vaulting days... So run it back down to normal lengths and not abbynormal lengths and you'd be in the 3K range for a 140. Which is iof course gonna be day and day out pretty much top end for a 140 out of a .270. Thx Dober
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Yeah 29" is not one's that gonna be seen very often. I figured you to be smart enough to not be redlining something and that those kinds of speeds were most likely tied to something that Bob Seagram would of liked during his vaulting days... So run it back down to normal lengths and not abbynormal lengths and you'd be in the 3K range for a 140. Which is iof course gonna be day and day out pretty much top end for a 140 out of a .270. Thx Dober True enough but it did do the 3140, just jerking J O's chain a bit
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I get it, but when a comment comes up with those kinds of speeds I just go for full disclosure. Bob taught me that...grin
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I knew that someone would.. LOL
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Yeah you mix those newer slow burners with longer barrels,and the 270 starts to rip/snort.3140 ain't hay.... Jeff just wondering(?)....how do you manage those great big actions for your 30/06 and 338? Do you need a running start backwards to cycle those bolts?
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
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On the Hodgdon reloading site, there is not a spits worth of difference between the .270 and 130 grain pill, and a .264 win mag. with a 129 grainer. I tend to side with an earlier comment. Out to 300 yds. no diff. @ 500-600 yds the .264 may give a little bit of an edge due to the general rule that the .264 bullet will usually have a higher BC
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Seems like a lot of trouble and a lot of barrel to get that kind of speed, when you could have beat it with a 270 Wby in a 26" barrel, maybe even 24".
I've got a 270 win, but I think I just talked myself into a Wby. Although 264 Win Mag sounds cooler than either one. Ah hell...
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Yeah you mix those newer slow burners with longer barrels,and the 270 starts to rip/snort.3140 ain't hay.... Jeff just wondering(?)....how do you manage those great big actions for your 30/06 and 338? Do you need a running start backwards to cycle those bolts? I just use my non-gay-ness. Duh!
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JWP, a 29" barrel?! Are we overcompensating for something with that? Anyway a .270 does 3000 fps @ .456 BC My 22" 7-08 does 3175 fps @ .417 BC I chose NBT's for simplicity. I'd say that's a functional match but I can't say I've run the numbers, just going seat of the pants. ........ and you guys know I'm kidding, right? I don't REALLY want to match the .270. That'd be gay.
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It would be kind of me to answer that so.......
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I'm standing here drilling holes and the longer I ponder the notion of a 29" .270 Win, the sillier it seems. Was it a dare? A bet? A concious attempt to create an abomination?
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'Course we could always try a 110 Barnes TTSX at 3400-3500 from the 270.....or the same 120 gr at 3300-3400.That from 24" tubes.
This could go on all night....anyway you slice it,7/08 loses.
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Maybe an attempt to make The World's Gayest .270?
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I'm standing here drilling holes and the longer I ponder the notion of a 29" .270 Win, the sillier it seems. Was it a dare? A bet? A concious attempt to create an abomination? Just because you can't handle a 270 with a 29" barrel doesn't mean that other can't I have more than one rifle with longer barrels and I have no problems hunting with them
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