24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,239
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,239
In the not to distant future I'm planning on a muzzleloader elk hunt in Colorado. I shoot an Encore and an Omega now. What bullet do you suggest that will comply with Colorado regs and perform well in my rifles?


The lion and tiger might be stronger, but the wolf does not perform in the circus.


NRA Life Member
GB1

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,169
Likes: 6
A
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Content
Campfire 'Bwana
A
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,169
Likes: 6
Powerbelts are the goto muzzle loader bullet here in Colorado.
My .50 like the .338 grain platinum PB's over 100gr of 777.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,239
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,239
Forgot to mention my rifles at .50 cal


The lion and tiger might be stronger, but the wolf does not perform in the circus.


NRA Life Member
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 46,262
Likes: 14
S
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
S
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 46,262
Likes: 14
My T/C rifles shoot the 348 grain PB with 80-90 grains BH209 very well.



A wise man is frequently humbled.

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 19,110
Likes: 6
S
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
S
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 19,110
Likes: 6
I use 295 gr Powerbelts, Aerotipped and 100grains of FFG black powder or 777. Never saw the need for the heavy weights in the PB.The 295's have killed elk for me fine. For those that say the PB's come apart, here is one I dug out of an elk under the hide on the far side last year with that load. Shot was about 80yards, maybe less.Retained weight was 295 gr. 100%, minus the skirt and tip.

If soemeone stuffs 150 gr of powder behind them they might come aprt. I don't see the need to do that either.

[Linked Image]

Last edited by saddlesore; 01/25/13.

If God wanted you to walk and carry things on your back, He would not have invented stirrups and pack saddles
IC B2

Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 11,358
Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 11,358
Likes: 1
Colorado got rid of the 2x caliber for length rule. I plan on using flat nose conicals and 80 to 100 grains of powder from here on out. Shot a bear with a 410 grain conical and 85 grains of powder last fall, worked quite well. Previously the 370 maxiball did very good on elk for me. Also have some 460 grain flat nose bullets to try as well. Good luck on your hunt.

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 24,851
T
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
T
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 24,851
Never hunted elk with a muzzleloader, that said if I ever do and the states law allows inlines I will be loading 300 grain barnes expanders in front of 150 grains of pyrodex.

If the states don't allow it I would use my T/C Greyhawk with 100 grains of pyrodex and 300 grain Thor bullets at (.502")

Either way I'm good.


.
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 57,494
R
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
R
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 57,494
Slightly larger, but in 54 I run 565 grain no excuses. 100 of DuPont 2F. Shoots really well out to 200 yards with irons. And should pack a punch if I ever find and elk to shoot at.

I like the no excuses bullets. And would use em in smaller calibers too.


We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,755
D
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
D
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,755
.54 Caliber 310 Grain Buffalo Ball-ets


He who joyfully marches in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.

- Albert Einstein
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 4,688
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 4,688
I used T/C maxi bullets. I got the mold & poured them myself. My buddy uses a T/C Hawken with 100 grain of FF. I use a 54 T/C Renagrad with 120 grains of FF.

IC B3

Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,219
J
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
J
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,219
90 grains of Pyrodex under a 295 Powerbelt green, did fine on my only cow with my Encore PH barrel.
It also shoots 100 grains with the 348 Powerbelt well.
My first shot was high, it was my first elk, shattered the spine and she couldn't move. Snuck in to 15 yds and put one more in her, instant death.


Keep Smiling
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,213
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,213
ditto last post
295 grain powerbelts, 90 grain pyrodex, in a .50 cal Encore

Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 11,738
B
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
B
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 11,738
Originally Posted by 30338
Colorado got rid of the 2x caliber for length rule.


That's too bad, but being the case, then I would opt for a .45 caliber rifle with an 18" twist and use 475-550 lead bullets for a rifle capable out to 300 yds. There are not many such rifles made commercially that I know of, but it is i not too hard to build one actually. Pedersoli Gibbs is the best of the mass-produced rifles. and then after that it becomes custom, or at least semicustom.


Save an elk, shoot a cow.
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 11,358
Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 11,358
Likes: 1
They didn't get rid of the 50 caliber requirement though. Funny that in their world a 45 cal heavy just isn't enough right.

Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 11,738
B
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
B
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 11,738
Well, that's better. Of course a .45 is better for what I have in mind, but the .50 min requirement will pull in the max range a bit and slow folks down. It's not a lethality issue that should keep the .45s out, its all about distance. But whatever works.


Save an elk, shoot a cow.
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 482
L
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
L
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 482
I use 370 grain Maxi-balls on top of 120 grains/eq of Pyrodex select. Runs about 1600/1700fps out of my Knight Revolution rifle.


You see in this world, there's two kinds of people my friend; those with loaded guns, and those who dig. You dig.



Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 885
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 885
I would use my 58cal bigbore with a roundball big smack

Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 954
E
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
E
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 954
The only two elk I have killed with a muzzle loader were shot with a Maxi-ball, and Maxi - hunter, 100 grains of FF, using a traditional MZ, with a peep sight.

Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 7,514
Likes: 1
H
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
H
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 7,514
Likes: 1
i use the 348gr powerbelt with 100grs of powder in my 50 cal ml.

killed several elk with that combo, and have been well satisfied.

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 203
H
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
H
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 203

250Gr Thor through both shoulders

[Linked Image]




Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

555 members (1Longbow, 257 mag, 219 Wasp, 1badf350, 10gaugemag, 22magnut, 62 invisible), 1,875 guests, and 1,241 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,194,246
Posts18,525,054
Members74,031
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.106s Queries: 55 (0.031s) Memory: 0.9136 MB (Peak: 1.0251 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-20 16:53:46 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS