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Going to start reloading soon looking for information on Barnes tipped tripple shock bullets.
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What kind of information?
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Go get their latest book. Their maximum charges list more powder, then other bullets company's. My 300 bee uses 80.5 of IMR 4831 with a 180 tsx.
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Going to start reloading soon looking for information on Barnes tipped tripple shock bullets. Try the reloading forums down below.
I replace valve cover gaskets every 50K, if they don't need them sooner...
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I reloaded some 85gr TSX for my 243. I started at 50 thousands off the lands. It didn't shoot as good as I knew the rifle was capable of. Long story short I ended up 80 thousand off and it shot lights out. Bill
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Can't beat the 85 TSX in the .243, Really puts down the deer.
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how many round before you need to clean the barrel is copper fouling a problem?? looks like I may change all my 30 caliber to the Bares bullets.
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They fould LESS than conventional cup and core bullets.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Going to start reloading soon looking for information on Barnes tipped tripple shock bullets. All you need beyond other bullets is that traditional seating depth ("kissing the lands") probably won't produce the best accuracy.
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"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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I clean barrels when accuracy starts to suffer. Different round count for different barrels. Al
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The Tipped Triple Shocks do not foul a barrel any more than any other bullet in my experience. the OLD original Barnes slugs did leave an orange mess behind but I used them anyway due to the terminal performance. I have written about this tip before, but will repeat it here. When loading a Barnes bullet for the first time, try crimping the casse slightly into the top uppermost groove as if it were a cannelure. 80% of the time or more, I have found a cartridge loaded in that fashion shoots wonderfully. Also, working up safely and watching the chronograph numbers.... load 'em as hot as you safely can. Barnes bullets like to be pushed hard for the best accuracy almost always. Being solid copper they do not obturate to the bore as well as a lead core bullet until pressures get up there a ways. In many ways, Loading a TTSX is the opposite of what we thought we knew years ago when we would load the bullet to touch the lands and grooves and often the best accuracy was found short of the max load. You are making an excellent choice to switch to all Barnes TTSX bullets, I have been using them (some itineration of the 'X')almost exclusively for over 20 years now. Drop down in bullet weight a notch or two, you will still get all of the penetration you need and less recoil plus flatter trajectory and bullet performance. Barnes bullets LOVE speed, and so do I
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Sometimes you just make my day. But 47.7 works better in our loads.
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Here is a group with 85 grain Barnes TSX in a Remington 660 that has never been "tuned up". 100 yards. Very good accuracy as far as I'm concerned for a hunting bullet. Just too bad they are so darned expensive. Only have a 100 on hand should get somemore.
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I'm having a problem with a 7-08 AI that does not like the Barnes TTSX and it's the bullet the customer wants to shoot. He tried Re15 and I've tried AA4350 and about 2 inches @100 yards is the best I could get.
That's max load for the 7-08 but I don't have load data for the 7-08 AI. Any suggestions?
I have not tinkered with seating depth. I will try a moderate crimp to see if that helps.
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I've switched everything to Barnes with the exception of my Double and in every case, they have been the most consistently accurate bullet I've ever used. I've only used them on game a few times(Axis deer, hogs,whitetail and Scimitar Oryx),but in every instance all have been one shot DRT with bigger than caliber exits (demonstrating expansion) and lots of internal damage. There is just no better bullet out there for hunting, especially on bigger game. Three shots from my pre-64 70 with 180 TTSXs. The pillar bedded McMillan stock reduced the groups BTW to what you see here:
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I'm having a problem with a 7-08 AI that does not like the Barnes TTSX and it's the bullet the customer wants to shoot. He tried Re15 and I've tried AA4350 and about 2 inches @100 yards is the best I could get.
That's max load for the 7-08 but I don't have load data for the 7-08 AI. Any suggestions?
I have not tinkered with seating depth. I will try a moderate crimp to see if that helps. Make sure that they are seated to provide a little bit of a jump to the lands, and yes, a mild crip should help. The biggest thing that will help is adding a few more 1/2 grains of powder, slowly and watching carefully of course, but if the top load you have tried is only the max load for a vanilla 7/08, you are possibly not pushing the bullet base hard enough to get it to properly obturate and seal. Shorten 'em up and push 'em hard is what I suggest. Also, no reason to go higher than a 120gr TTSX for any lower 48 game animals. Tis what I use even in my 7 Mashburn Super and it is a real killer.
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I forgot to add that in my experience the T/TSXs like to be seated well away from the lands. I just seat mine to the last cannelure and crimp with a Lee Factory Crimp die.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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JorgeI - Nice group! Next time I will try one off of a bench rest too. (smiley) Here is a group I shot yesterday with my Remington 700 in 22-250 with a heavy barrel. Original 40 year old gun, never been tuned up. Front rest was a shot bag filled with pea gravel and the rear was a boat cussion with a folded up Krommer hat. Bit the bullet and bought a couple real rests.
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