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That'll catch up to you.....more so with HP's....don't skip it. FYI....I usually run 'em an hour and a half min....
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I've a few questions for you guys about a rifle I'm cobbling together.
1) What are you 243 A.I. guys using for dies? I'm looking at the 2 die Redding set (neck sizer and seater). Will I want to have a body die, or will touching the shoulders be completely unnecessary?
2) For those of you that have had 700 barrels punched out, are you having them set back to kiss lands from the mag? Looking at some 243 Win dummies with 105 A-Maxes, it seems that a 2.8" COAL leaves the base of the bullet right at the Neck/Shoulder junction. As an alternative. I punched an ADL 243 24 inch to 6mm-284. It fed better after the follower was switched out and replaced with a WSM follower. No need for set back. The original magazine works well with the 284 round and bullets up to 95 gr ballistic tip are not seated too deeply. So far accuracy (with this barrel)is disappointing. Definitely lethal on deer to 300 yds, but still not moa. Unfortunately I never fired the rifle with 243 ammo so I do not know if it might have been better in its original configuration. Federal 6.5-284 brass is easy to find and necks down easily. A Pacific two die set with a 25 cal neck die was purchased from a 'fire member. My rifle makes 3300 fps w/ a 95 gr bal tip & H4831 or 3500 fps w/ the 85 gr Sierra spbt and RL17.
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That'll catch up to you.....more so with HP's....don't skip it. FYI....I usually run 'em an hour and a half min.... By catch up, do you mean the coating will start getting skimpy, splotchy, just schitty in general? What's the preferred degreasing method?
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That'll catch up to you.....more so with HP's....don't skip it. FYI....I usually run 'em an hour and a half min.... By catch up, do you mean the coating will start getting skimpy, splotchy, just schitty in general? What's the preferred degreasing method? The lube from making the bullets will eventually contaminate the moly, s/s balls, and the container that you use to moly plate with. It'll get to the point of not plating any more, just kind of a [bleep] coating that'll wipe off with little effort. I use two plastic containers, chip dip/cottage cheese type, a couple of generous squirts of Dawn, and hot water. Play the mad scientist, pouring them back and forth in the two containers 15-20 times, eventually doing it under the faucet till the hot water runs clear. Dump them on a towel, hit 'em with a blow dryer till they're too hot to touch, and into the bowl, ready to plate.
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Copy that, thanks aalf. I'll degrease the rest of these suckers.
I [bleep] up and just realized that stock doesn't have sling swivels... well that just ain't going to work!
Should I order up some, or do flush cups?
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Should I order up some, or do flush cups? Depends on how you wanna carry and/or use a bipod. I have both....just because....
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I am just starting to play with moly as well. Yours look better than mine!
I put about 350 bullets into a brand new tumbler with a lil less than 1/8 of a Tsp of moly for about an hour and a half, checking every 15 minutes or so. They look like [bleep]. Ain't coated to well and stil look copper hued.
I'm guessing the fact I didn't de-grease is the reason. New tumbler bowl prolly had some oil on it as well as the fact I had my greazy dik beaters in all the bullet boxes, as they were mostly full partials boxes I had loaded out of previously.
My plan is to wash out the bowl and bullets with some Dawn and start over.
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Takes more moly the first go around......
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I didn't degrease anything and mine looked like Tanner's, nice shiny and silver. Not much rubbed off while seating bullets, just a little off my thumb and forefinger and no change to the finish on the bullets.
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I didn't degrease... degreasing is gay I think you're totally right in that it could've been done in less time than that. Might've taken longer because I didn't have a ton of bullets in there resulting in less peening taking place... Mickey Mtn Rifle is here... I've got to toss on a flip flop pad and decide if I want to paint it or not... A pink browning sticker and pink flip flop glued on and I'd call it good.
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I slapped on a green flip flop pad... Still need to find a Duck Commander sticker.
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Im diggin the bondo patch, reminds me of my first Chevy 1/2 ton You get that stock right from McM? Looks like we're doing very similar builds. Excellent taste Tan'.
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I dig the bondo too. It'll still probably get paint slapped, though. I got the stock from a liquidator. Thanks to prairie goat for the lead on it! I just need some DBM to fit in with you and the other cool kids... perhaps later You went Sako Hunter on yours, right?
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What bottom metal are you planning? I missed the boat on that when I went adl on mine.
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Ya Sako Hunter 50/50 black/white. If you go Atlas DBM and Jordan will let you into our super secret Canadian gun club.
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Leave the stock unpainted! Looks pretty cool, as is
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Leave the stock unpainted! Looks pretty cool, as is What he said.
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Sorry dudes.
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Bastage. You would just do that.
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