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My son has been thinking of a bird dog (have a gun shy lab who hates water) and I suggested the GWP. Any owners out there?
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You need to contact MT DD FAN on this forum. He has three of 'em, and likes 'em a lot. I've hunted with him, and they're great dogs.
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also called Draughthars....I know a breeder in Iowa...they are awesome multi purpose dogs...
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I believe JJHack can help. PM him.
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You guys are going to upset some of us.....
A Deutsch Drahthaar is not quite the same as a German Wirehair Pointer. But close. I don't own one yet but have a pup " on order" if a male pup drops next month.
But I'll let others speak to the breeds with actual experience. I know I am quite excited waiting for mine. I've researched and waited nearly 4 years. And I was a Die Hard Chessie guy. We'll see about my choice soon
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You guys are going to upset some of us.....
A Deutsch Drahthaar is not quite the same as a German Wirehair Pointer. But close.
+1 Here is my DD Sampson Check out http://www.vdd-gna.org/I've hunted with some good GWPs but if going in blind your chances of getting a solid dog my money is on the DD. You won't be disappointed.
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Funny the Drahthaar was mentioned. I researched these dogs about 20 years ago following an article in a Gun Dog or like periodical. I was fascinated with the breed and their abilities. However I bought a yellow lab and now a black since they were more family dogs than hunters.
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(have a gun shy lab who hates water) A good reason to look at the DD. It's one of the few breeds Americans haven't managed to ruin,,,, Yet.
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A Deutsch Drahthaar is not quite the same as a German Wirehair Pointer. But close.
I always thought they were the same breed, but simply "papered" differently.. Anybody care to elaborate on the differences?
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I too think they are the same dog. I have had three of them. Great hunters and house dogs. All three lived to be about 17. Try to get one with a good stiff coat. I have had an English Setter, Lewellen setter, brittney and 3 German Whirehars/Drathaars. Enjoyed the Drathaars the most. This one doesn't look like the typical Drathaar. Usually they are more chunky.
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A Deutsch Drahthaar is not quite the same as a German Wirehair Pointer. But close.
I always thought they were the same breed, but simply "papered" differently.. Anybody care to elaborate on the differences? The difference is unregulated vs regulated breeding. The GWP has no testing requirement for the breeding stock To be a breeding dog in the VDD you have to pass to performance/ability tests, hardness test, coat and conformation test, and be certified hip dysplasia free by the folks in Germany. So you have the proven and the best breeding.
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Funny the Drahthaar was mentioned. I researched these dogs about 20 years ago following an article in a Gun Dog or like periodical. I was fascinated with the breed and their abilities. However I bought a yellow lab and now a black since they were more family dogs than hunters. oh DDs are family dogs biggest lap dog I've ever been around. Until you get him in the field.
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Nimrod, you bring back so many memories with the pict of the dog with the kid sitting on him. Lokes like my first two Drathaars. You are sure correct on being lap dogs untill the hunting starts!
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This is Tank, my Deutsch Drahthaar. He is by far the best hunting dog I've had the pleasure of hunting behind. I wish I could tell some stories of some of our hunts, man we've had fun! He does everything from upland to waterfowl to fur and is great around the kids. He does have issues with getting bored around the yard and gives me fits- he's an outside dog, but it's all good . He's pretty intense, extremely loyal, and is very smart. At about 10 weeks old He loves the snow! He found this guy while we were shed hunting in our local woods. The critter was spared- this time . Watching some Yellowstone trout. Hangin' out with the kids. A CO triple. A KS rooster. [img] http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww92/jwaller7/DSC01438_zpsea244638.jpg[/img] On a covey of KS quail. [img] http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww92/jwaller7/DSC01501_zps3d7aeaaf.jpg[/img]
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We are retired and just put our last Drathaar down (15 yrs old) a few months ago. We miss her but said no more dogs. Hope I can still say no if a nice one like yours shows up!
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Very classy looking dog! I'm hoping for similar
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I have a buddy in Iowa that has a litter due March 15...he only imports the best dogs from Germany...I have no interest financially in his kennel...pm me and I will give you his contact info...
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Kennel name if you don't mind(of Tank)?
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Vom Himmelbogen is his kennel name...he lives about 35 min outside Des Moines...I doubt he has a website...
sorry, since you edited to say "Tank" this info is not what you want...
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Still ok. I enjoy looking at all the breeders, though I am committed as well as satisfied with my deposit.
Several of the dog scores are visible with easy GoogleFu. Some really great dogs and kennels out there. Very interesting to invest a few hours in educating oneself on how to read the Test Scores
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