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There is a long running debate on another forum about whether or not a Ruger Blackhawk convertible .45acp cylinder can be modified to shoot .45 Auto Rim. Does anyone know for sure?
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Yes, Brian Pearce covered it in Handloader once. Two ways to do it, either recess the chambers or trim back the whole rear of the cylinder.
It would be a neat mod, if you had enough AR brass to make it worthwhile.
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Anyone have a link to the article? It would be nice to finally put the naysayers to rest.
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Should be a simple matter of dropping the cylinder on a lathe and taking a little material off the back.
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I am pretty certain that Alan Harton has done the mod.
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And the obvious question is why?
.45 Auto cases work great in the Ruger chamber and are everywhere. They are literally free for the taking on a lot of ranges. I'm not sure I've ever seen a .45 AR case except maybe at a gunshow.
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And the obvious question is why?
.45 Auto cases work great in the Ruger chamber and are everywhere. They are literally free for the taking on a lot of ranges. I'm not sure I've ever seen a .45 AR case except maybe at a gunshow. Exactly. Why spend the money to convert.
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Why not. The conversion shouldn't cost that much and would be much cheaper than a S&W wheel gun. Midway carries new brass and it is only $2 more than .45acp but still $1 cheaper than .45colt brass.
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Why not. The conversion shouldn't cost that much and would be much cheaper than a S&W wheel gun. Midway carries new brass and it is only $2 more than .45acp but still $1 cheaper than .45colt brass. I don't see the point in such a conversion, one can load the 45 acp cases the same for the revolver as one can the auto rim case. A double action revolver modified to shoot 45 acp in a full moon clips has merit IMHO for speed loading
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I am one of those guys who had a .45 Colt NMBH with a .45 ACP cylinder converted to allow the use of .45 AR. I find the NMBH is smoother cycling with AR cases than ACP and it certainly didn�t hurt accuracy. I also prefer to use AR cases in my 625 on the range. When I have used the 625 for IPSC I use moon clips, but I don�t really like them. My Dillon 550 is set up to load .45 ACP or AR interchangeably with just a switch of shell plate.
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What did the modification cost ball park if you don't mine me asking. Maybe someday I'll get around to having mine done.
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What did the modification cost ball park if you don't mine me asking. Maybe someday I'll get around to having mine done. I don't recall. It has been a while, but it was under $80.
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What did the modification cost ball park if you don't mine me asking. Maybe someday I'll get around to having mine done. I don't recall. It has been a while, but it was under $80. Wow, I wish our gunsmiths (if you can find a killed one) were that cheap.
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So Justin,
Is it just to have the option of using AR brass? That�s a tough sell to me though, the .45 AR cartridge is all but non-existent these days. If you had several DA revolvers that you used AR brass in, I could maybe understand it. But to use AR in your Blackhawk, you�d really have to go well out of your way to do so.
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So Justin,
Is it just to have the option of using AR brass? That�s a tough sell to me though, the .45 AR cartridge is all but non-existent these days. If you had several DA revolvers that you used AR brass in, I could maybe understand it. But to use AR in your Blackhawk, you�d really have to go well out of your way to do so. Perhaps it helps that I have 4 single action NMBHs and 3 double action (25-2, 625JM, 625PC) in .45 ACP/AR. I also have plenty of .45 ACP brass and plenty of .45 AR brass (Remington and Starline). Works fine.
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So Justin,
Is it just to have the option of using AR brass? That�s a tough sell to me though, the .45 AR cartridge is all but non-existent these days. If you had several DA revolvers that you used AR brass in, I could maybe understand it. But to use AR in your Blackhawk, you�d really have to go well out of your way to do so. Perhaps it helps that I have 4 single action NMBHs and 3 double action (25-2, 625JM, 625PC) in .45 ACP/AR. I also have plenty of .45 ACP brass and plenty of .45 AR brass (Remington and Starline). Works fine. That splains it. BTW, I always liked the Keith 240 grain SWC he designed for the AR; cool bullet.
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