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What are the pros and cons of the Winchester Small Rifle versus the Remington 7 1/2 primer?

Is one hotter?
Is one harder?
Is one bigger?

I can get both for about the same price right now.

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I like the Winchester, essentially because it is softer, which helps priming some military brass with a tight primer pocket...

the Win is supposed to be a hair hotter also.

but it doesn't bother me one bit if Rem is all I can get..

heck, if you can get primers period right now, and especially if you need some, I'd stock up on what I could afford... or what they will let me buy...

primers around here are scarcer than chicken teeth...


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I found a good deal on the WSR years ago (way pre-hoarding hysteria days), and picked up about 20,000 (maybe more... whistle ) or so. I'm still whittling away at the stash, and happy that I don't have to search and scrounge in today's market.

They have served me well for everything I use them for (222, 223, 222 Rem Mag).

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I use the Rem7 1/2 for my AR's, some claim slam fires with WSR's and 205's.
In my bolt guns I use nothing but WSR's and 205's

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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
What are the pros and cons of the Winchester Small Rifle versus the Remington 7 1/2 primer?

Is one hotter?
Is one harder?
Is one bigger?

I can get both for about the same price right now.


WSR is a little hotter - works good with ball powders in cold weather,etc..
Rem 7 1/2 is a little harder - Some people would prefer in an AR-15, etc.
Both are small rifle primer pocket primers.
Both are good.
Get some of both - See what you like........ smile

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Count me in the WSR camp. I don't mind CCI 400's either...


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Any trouble with Winchesters in the AR/Mini platforms?

Also, I've been told that Rem 7 1/2 should be used in the 17 Remington?

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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
Any trouble with Winchesters in the AR/Mini platforms?

Also, I've been told that Rem 7 1/2 should be used in the 17 Remington?


I'm a bolt guy--so I can't respond to the performance in AR's. I don't have anything against them, just never owned one.....


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a little off post but my experinace is a bit diferent talking small pistol here went with win small pistol primner in a .22 hornet and same in .38spl snubby well always thought the velocity with the hornet was a bit low but one day loaded some rem small pitol (11/2) in the hornet only chnage and chrono some wow +95 FPS increase so made the same change with the 38 and wow again 90 fps increase so guess what small pistol primers I am useing now

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I've found the unplated WSRs pierce easily in ARs.


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I take it "unplated" means the ones that look brass-colored rather than the silver?

I've got some of both colors actually.

So, should I save the silver WSR for semi-auto use?

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The 7-1/2 is a magnum primer. The shell is stronger (harder, thicker, whichever) and will hold more pressure. So judge for yourself if it's a hotter primer. The WSR primer will fail sooner than the 7-1/2. I'll use it in low pressure rounds like the Hornet.

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I an AR I always use CCI mag primers with H335. I think the win. are harder than Rem. But CCI are harder than both.

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Originally Posted by sidewinder72
I think the win. are harder than Rem.


They're not.

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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
I take it "unplated" means the ones that look brass-colored rather than the silver?

I've got some of both colors actually.

So, should I save the silver WSR for semi-auto use?

Yeah, I'd save the silver ones for your semi-autos. I never had problems with WSRs until they deleted the plating.

Remington primers are tough little things. I think they are harder than or at least as hard as CCI450s.


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Originally Posted by Ackman
The 7-1/2 is a magnum primer.


Wrong they are not

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Originally Posted by Ackman
Originally Posted by sidewinder72
I think the win. are harder than Rem.


They're not.


On this you are correct

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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
I take it "unplated" means the ones that look brass-colored rather than the silver?

I've got some of both colors actually.

So, should I save the silver WSR for semi-auto use?


Guess you did not read my first post (btw color does not matter)

Most dont like WSR's for semi-auto use because they are thinner and softer,
WSR's cup thickness .021" Rem7 1/2 .025" CCI 450 and BR4 .025" better for semi-auto

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Originally Posted by rockchuck828
Originally Posted by Ackman
The 7-1/2 is a magnum primer.


Wrong they are not


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Originally Posted by Ackman
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Originally Posted by Ackman
The 7-1/2 is a magnum primer.


Wrong they are not


Think whatever you like.


Ackman,
What makes you think the 7-1/2 is a magnum primer ????

Years ago Federal made 200 small rifle primers then they switched to making the 205's we have today.
Remington used to make 6-1/2 primers now they make 7-1/2 primers.
The higher number in either does not mean they are Magnum, but just a newer model with a bigger price tag.

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