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Hi all - New to this forum, have been hunting whitetail here in the midwest for 30 yrs., planning first elk hunt in Colo. in 2014. How does the .308 stack up as an elk round ?
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An excellent question, as I have posted here, more than a few times, I know of more elk lost to 6mm/243 calibers than any othe caliber. I am not a guide, do not have a huge data base, but a very long time hunter and that is what I have seen.
And I've seen more bang-flop dead in their tracks elk killed with a 260 than all others, combined, and haven't seen one lost yet. Mainly because we hunt elk with 260s, regularly... with nary a worry about the impending result.
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How does the .308 stack up as an elk round ? Just fine. After all, it's just a necked up .260.....
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How does the .308 stack up as an elk round ? Seen a Wapiti or two smacked with a 308, and none of them shook it off.
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How does the .308 stack up as an elk round ? Just fine. After all, it's just a necked up .260..... Yup, with the heavier bullet, you do lose some velocity, but they still work.
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I know of more elk lost to 6mm/243 calibers than any othe caliber. I am not a guide, do not have a huge data base, but a very long time hunter and that is what I have seen. It's a good bet they weren't using 130 or 140 grain bullets.
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The .308 is better than the .260 or the 7mm-08.
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Precisely. I thought we were talking about the .260. I'm not sure though, the title of the thread may have confused me.
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Same way he knows an elk won't fit in the back of his golf cart.
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I thought we were talking about the .260. I'm not sure though I think we are, but I made a comparison that was perfectely clear to me at the time, (and upon retrospect only me). I feel that there is little difference in a 115 gr. 6mm bullet going 3000 ft per, than a 6.5 120 grain bullet going the same speed. And I have known several elk lost to the above. Both calibers are at best marginally adequate at western game ranges. We have all seen an elk that absorb energy like they were sponges, and walk over the rim of the ridge down into the deep dark. I recovered a bull this year that was hit well but I believe would not have been recovered with a light rifle. After over 2 1/2 feet of penetration the 180 PT, broke the rear leg bone 8 inches below the hindquarter ball socket, (in two)and then exited the bull. This was at 540 yards, with a smaller rifle I doubt that bone would have been broken and the elk would not have been recovered. My ballistics calculator shows that the bullet still had over 1700 ft. lbs energy at that distance. The caliber under discussion generates that at 300 yards. How many will limit the distance of thier shots, and can make the perfect shot each and every time. I am sure there are a few but not many. As I said in another post, rocks and spears will kill them, but to do it time after time ethecially and cleanly ones needs some insurance.
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I've used them all......the .308 is better, and the .30-06 is even better.
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Elk are beg animls. 2 or 3 thosend pounds and well kill you wit the horns.
Use a magnumb if u are smart.
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I feel that there is little difference in a 115 gr. 6mm bullet going 3000 ft per, than a 6.5 120 grain bullet going the same speed. Curious, which 115 grain pill were you shooting 3000 fps out of a 243?
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I've used them all......the .308 is better, and the .30-06 is even better. I forgot about all those pretend elk you've killed.
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I forgot about you. I'm glad I did.
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Jealous much?......why post in the elk forum about cartridge selection, when you have zero experience with ANY elk hunting?
Maybe you just like to show these folks what a tool you are.
FWIW, I've killed lots of bull elk with the 30/06, .308 and the .260.....not a single one was pretend either.
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I'm sure glad these elk with super powers have not made it to NM yet.
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