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So, where are all the Asians gonna go??? Six Frags


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Let the parks keep the money that they collect and just leave them alone. They'd be self sustaining. The problem is they put the money into the general fund and "poof" it's gone!


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Open the parks up to hunting and public use, we don't need no national parks.... it's not natural..


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Originally Posted by highridge1
Open the parks up to hunting and public use, we don't need no national parks.... it's not natural..


Teddy and Stephen just rolled over in their graves. The parks are a vital part of our nations infrastructure and money well spent compared to many other line items in the budget.

There are millions that tour several parks every year, spending money along their travel paths injecting vital amounts of money to rural communities. The RV rental industry alone was pretty much established because of the parks.


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When did the park rangers become god? Why if they run out of money do we have to stay off the national park? I aid my taxes for the Parks. What a bunch of bs that the gov can not and will not manage its money so I can not go into a National Park if the gov runs out of money. Too bad we don't have a law that they can't kick us out.

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Originally Posted by watch4bear
Park service employee's should be volunteers.


I've worked in National Parks - believe me, most jobs are not for volunteers. Fire fighting, trailcrews, road maintenance, heavy equipment operation, bear patrol, etc. are not for volunteers!

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Originally Posted by Ralphie
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Park service employee's should be volunteers.



Why? Everyone else gets paid for the work they do.



What work exactly does park service do?


Well I know they like to harass the hell out of folks.



This is funny.

And I am a dumbass, I just kinda assumed the Parks made enough money to pay for themselves.


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This is an eye-opener:

What We Do
National Park Service by the Numbers*

$48,000,000,000 incentivized in private historic preservation investment
11,700,000,000 visitors
$5,409,252,508 in preservation and outdoor recreation grants awarded
$2,750,000,000 annual budget
121,603,193 objects in museum collections
97,417,260 volunteer hours
84,000,000 acres of land
4,502,644 acres of oceans, lakes, reservoirs
2,482,104 volunteers
218,000 jobs supported in gateway communities
85,049 miles of perennial rivers and streams
68,561 archeological sites
43,162 miles of shoreline
28,000 employees
27,000 historic structures
2,461 national historic landmarks
582 national natural landmarks
400 endangered species
398 national parks
49 national heritage areas
1 mission: The National Park Service cares for special places saved by the American people so that all may experience our heritage.

*numbers are cumulative through the end of FY 2008

http://www.nps.gov/aboutus/index.htm

Lots more crazy stuff at the link above, this link below is more fun stuff:

http://www.nature.nps.gov/climatechange/


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Originally Posted by watch4bear
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Park service employee's should be volunteers.



Why? Everyone else gets paid for the work they do.



What work exactly does park service do?


The Park Service maintains, staffs and manages some of this countries biggest tourist (foreign and domestic) attractions. Should the staff at six flags be volunteers? What about hunting and fishing guides?


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I think they're proposing cutting funding to the Parks Svc because they are tied to the same funding as the Transportation and Education systems in the US. Parks are the first ones to feel the axe.


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Just close the visitor centers and the entrance shacks and go home. Leave the gates open - it's our park - we will take care of ourselves.


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What work exactly does park service do?[/quote]

Well I know they like to harass the hell out of folks. [/quote]


This is funny.

And I am a dumbass, I just kinda assumed the Parks made enough money to pay for themselves.

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Just take trip into the "back country" or try to watch a bear from the road one time and you'll know what I mean.

We run a trip in there every year and they usually come in to inspect our camp. Once they brought in the backcountry ranger gal and 4 gunpackers to our camp. By boat, it was on the east shore on the lake.

Imagine a cop with the worst "my lunch was always stolen while I was a kid, so now I'm on a power trip" syndrome and that is how pretty much every Park service cop or back country ranger is.

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Originally Posted by CCCC
Just close the visitor centers and the entrance shacks and go home. Leave the gates open - it's our park - we will take care of ourselves.


Just close the Admin Building and the Registrars Office and go home. Leave the Library open - it's our College - we will take care of ourselves.

Sounds like a college administrator to me! grin

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I hear that YNP might even have to turn Old Faithful off.


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When are folks going to figure out that we're broke? Maybe Yellowstone will be closed for 20 years. We don't need the parks, they're nice to have, but JFC, when there's NO MORE MONEY, there's NO MORE MONEY.


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Just close the visitor centers and the entrance shacks and go home. Leave the gates open - it's our park - we will take care of ourselves.





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That's Au Phuc Dup, and I ain't talkin' 'bout Viet Nam, either...


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11,700,000,000 visitors...

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Originally Posted by saddlesore
This about the same as when the city of Colorado Springs turned off street lights and locked doors in city park restrooms. They choose the highly visibale things that impact the public as scare tactics.

They are still short of money,but now want to pay the City Council Members $48K per year where they get $6K per year for apart time job.

You can bet the Admin. people at both parks will not be cut,pay wise,time wise, or number wise.


exactly, but no one wants to crunch the numbers. you look at the operating budget of a huge park like yellowstone, or yosemite or any of them, it's in the millions yes, but when you consider the billions of foreign aid we give to our enemies.... WTF? for what? honestly, for all the gov "services" out there, the national parks and the like are the last ones we should try cutting. in reality they are the only ones that EVERYONE can use and enjoy. everything else is special interest or foreign.

yet they cut what will impact the public the most, because that's who is paying for it and will voice an opinion. at the end of the day no politician cares about what side of the isle or who's right or wrong. they are about themselves, bottom line, bottom feeder.








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