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I dunno, seems to me when he goes to the gunshop to pick it up, the gunshop people ought to tell him his purchase has been canceled and give him a full refund. That in fact he appears to be an unstable individual and they reserve the right not to sell firearms to anyone who appears to have been "subjected to severe mental stresses." Damnit seems only right but plain commonsense or some horseshit like that as they are fond of saying. Magnum Man I'd rather they sell him the gun and then when he turns it over to the police, accuse him of making a straw purchase and turn him in.
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Straw purchase only applies when the person actually receiving is prohibited.
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I suppose this just proves that 'Gabby' is/ was just another politician. Sad that she got shot. Even sadder that she has used that incident to damage American Citizens across the Country. For financial gain, I might add...........
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Straw purchase only applies when the person actually receiving is prohibited. From the innerweb Firearms
Straw purchases can be illegal in the United States when made at a federally licensed firearm dealership. If the straw purchaser of the firearm lies about the identity of the ultimate possessor of the gun, he can be charged with making false statements on a federal Firearms Transaction Record. If a firearm is purchased as a gift, the purchaser must indicate the intended recipient on the transaction record.
4 out of 5 Great Lakes prefer Michigan.
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He did the paperwork but cannot pick it up yet. Never thought about that as when the dealer here calls it in you walk out with your gun. Unless you are denied or put on hold, that is. unless you have a CCW permit then you just walk right out the door with it after you give minimal information and your permit.
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He did the paperwork but cannot pick it up yet. Never thought about that as when the dealer here calls it in you walk out with your gun. Unless you are denied or put on hold, that is. unless you have a CCW permit then you just walk right out the door with it after you give minimal information and your permit. That's right last time I bought a rifle it was quicker than the Taco Bell drive through, of course they gun shop knew I was coming and had it in the box for me.
�The constitution of the United States asserts that all power is inherent in the people, that they may exercise it by themselves, that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed!� � Thomas Jefferson
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Yes, I think this would qualify as a straw purchase.
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Found this on Breitbart...
Days after making the purchases, Kelly wrote on Facebook:
"I just had a background check a few days ago when I went to my local gun store to buy a .45. As I was leaving, I noticed a used AR-15. Bought that too. Even to buy an assault weapon, the background check only takes a matter of minutes. I don't have possession of it yet but I'll be turning it over to the Tucson PD when I do."
It is currently TPD's policy to auction off recovered firearms.
Must be good money selling common sense. I'm sure he needed it AR's are pretty scarce around here and priced for the mullet.
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unless you have a CCW permit then you just walk right out the door with it after you give minimal information and your permit.
Not in Oklahoma.......a CCW does not allow the bypass of NICS check.
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On her last campaign (prior to getting plugged) Gabby stopped at Trailboss Guns and Gear in Sierra Vista,......looked at a variety of holsters for her Glock, and was VERY candid and open about a STRONG pro-2A and self defense position,.......
Guess things changed.
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Straw purchase only applies when the person actually receiving is prohibited. From the innerweb Firearms
Straw purchases can be illegal in the United States when made at a federally licensed firearm dealership. If the straw purchaser of the firearm lies about the identity of the ultimate possessor of the gun, he can be charged with making false statements on a federal Firearms Transaction Record. If a firearm is purchased as a gift, the purchaser must indicate the intended recipient on the transaction record. Neither one of these statements is true. First, you can be guilty of a straw purchase even if the person you buy for is legally allowed to own the firearm........ For instance, let's say there is a gun show this weekend and I have to work.......if I give you the money and you buy a firearm for me, you are guilty of a straw purchase, even though I can legally own the firearm. Second, there is no requirement to indicate the name of a gift recipient on a 4473........ From the 4473 "Notices, Instructions and Definitions" section: Question 11.a. Actual Transferee/Buyer: For purposes of this form, you are the actual transferee/buyer if you are purchasing the firearm for yourself or otherwise acquiring the firearm for yourself (e.g., redeeming the firearm from pawn/retrieving it from consignment, firearm raffle winner). You are also the actual transferee/buyer if you are legitimately purchasing the firearm as a gift for a third party. ACTUAL TRANSFEREE/BUYER EXAMPLES: Mr. Smith asks Mr. Jones to purchase a firearm for Mr. Smith. Mr. Smith gives Mr. Jones the money for the firearm. Mr. Jones is NOT THE ACTUAL TRANS- FEREE/BUYER of the firearm and must answer �NO� to question 11.a. The licensee may not transfer the firearm to Mr. Jones. However, if Mr. Brown goes to buy a firearm with his own money to give to Mr. Black as a present, Mr. Brown is the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm and should answer �YES� to question 11.a. However, you may not transfer a firearm to any person you know or have reasonable cause to believe is prohibited under 18 U.S.C. � 922(g), (n), or (x). Please note: EXCEPTION: If you are picking up a repaired firearm(s) for another person, you are not required to answer 11.a. and may proceed to question 11.b.
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He did the paperwork but cannot pick it up yet. Because it is so easy to buy one, right?  He should have went to a gun show! Read he said that is next, or will be done in the near future.
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getting shot in the head, the pain they've gone thru, the permanent damage she'll have to deal with in the future, you can't blame her for changing her stance - and honestly I don't have a problem with it. I would think that people who are honest about the gun debate would understand her motivations and take that into consideration when looking at the bigger picture
however, her husband trying to buy an AR-15 before they become illegal on or around the day he testifies in front of congress to ban guns - that is some severe [bleep] territory there.
He should be ridiculed at each and every opportunity for his hypocrisy and lying to cover it up.
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If you purchase a firearm with the intent to transfer it to another person or entity that is a straw purchase. Therefore, if he purchased it with the intent to transfer it to the police that is a straw purchase.
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Its all fun and games till somebody gets shot in the head
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It looks to me that they wanted to move right in where the Bradys left off, we have to remember that the Bradys made a good living for a lot of years.
I suppose now he cant drag her around the circuit for a cash flow.
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He should not even be allowed to have guns in his home. Afterall, he now lives with someone with mental problems. Isn't that what the liberals are scared of?
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He should not even be allowed to have guns in his home. Afterall, he now lives with someone with mental problems. Isn't that what the liberals are scared of? Interesting point! We have the recent incident in California to use as an example.
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While I understand his heartbreak over the shooting of his wife I believe his anger is placed in the wrong direction and I cannot excuse his hypocritical actions. Understandable, Yes. Politically expedient, maybe. Principled and moral, No. I have no use for those who attempt to assuage their personal grief and understandable anger by going on a crusade to limit the rights of others. The Bradys, Carolyn McCarthy, and now the Giffords. It is an abuse of their status and political influence. Paul
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unless you have a CCW permit then you just walk right out the door with it after you give minimal information and your permit.
Not in Oklahoma.......a CCW does not allow the bypass of NICS check. Same here in Oregon no pass for a CCW. Cheers NC
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