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Hi, Kevin,

Looks like some good stuff. Thanks for saying "hi" earlier on email. Sorry I haven't been around much lately. Working like a dog to get a job down by the weekend of April 19 - 21.

Take care,

HJ

Dan, I eat quinoa...

So does Dan:)

I eat quinoa as well, sometimes

Thanks TAK. The quilts are a very good value. There have been several improvements worked into the quilts for 2013. In addition, we include the draft collar around the neck which really helps seal that area, without needing to strangle yourself. This translates to less lost heat. The pad attachments, along with generous sizing keeps the sides from being drafty.

We worked with TIm, at trying to provide some wearable functionality, but in the end, it wasn't worth the additional labor in our opinion, especially since it's pretty easy to just wrap the quilt around you anyway. The fabric these are made from is considered seconds, but neither Tim or us, has been able to notice a difference in performance. That is what helps them be priced at $150 less than other down quilts in the 850 fill range. The quality of the DWR material is actually very good. I personally have a lot of nights under these. I've slept in 60 degree weather and performed testing well below 0F as well.

Kevin

Like a JRB-style No-Sniveler head hole? I swear by mine, but I confess I don't use it much. It is added labor, which is why JRB sells quilts with and without it.

I'm sold on the concept of a hooded vest for quilt sleeping, but I'm sure the draft collar adds warmth.

Right, we tried a couple different options. One was a head hole, but it did increase cost and complexity. We also did a snap / wrap style enclosure that was simple and somewhat effective. The fact though, is it's pretty darn easy to wrap a quilt around you if you are chilly. Just undo the foot box and wrap it around, and although I personally used it a few times when the weather was colder than I expected , it was normally early morning or late evening stuff and I'm not sure it would be wise to actually use it while roaming about. I'd much rather expose my jacket than my sleep gear. Thats just my opinion though.

Kevin

Not exactly sure what that set-up is called, but that looks model perfect for the types of backcountry/backpack hunts I've been on. What is that thing? I may have to see if I can convince my pard that set up is better than his 9'X9' Kelty dome tent we usually take.

That is the LBO, 2 bases and a tarp I believe.

Thanks!!

Pretty nice rig for a basecamp, especially for we "geriatric" types who may require some greater level of comfort in the mountains than we did 30 years ago.

How would this compare with a 12 man tipi and/or an 8-man tipi in usable over-all space and headroom?

I have a Four Dog Ti large stove for whatever my next ( and last) basecamp shelter will be and am now trying to finalize my decision on what I should buy. There will be, at max, two persons and I will also have my Hilleberg Saivo rigged as a stand-alone sleeping tent.

So, the heated shelter, will be for cooking, eating and just "living" for my wife and I and/or one of my buddies while hunting.

Ideas?

Kute, PM Bear in Fairbanks. He has a 4-dog with a large tipi and could give you meaningful heat output info due to his location I'm sure.

The Lil Bug Out is a very nice rig. It is not an 8 person or 12 though in stand up room. It is only 5'4 " inches tall, but as far as sleeping and comfort it is extremely usable. The setup in the photo, has effectively 4 entrances and exits, no one has to crawl over each other so it's great for geezers that don't want to crawl over buddies in the night. It is light, at about 3 lbs excluding trekking poles and stakes and can be under 4 complete and about 6 lbs with nests that make it effectively a double wall.

Here would be an interior photo


Note: the stove has a utility / backing tray attached

Good deals in the outlet. See our blog post. Slight,y used, testers and prototypes