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The only other cal better than the 30-06 in Africa is the 375. The only cal better than the 375 in Africa is the 30-06. 165 gr and 180 gr for the 06 work very well.
My 06 seems to like Highlands and shoots it very well.
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tomk,
Not much difference between the heavy-jacket Ballistic Tips and AccuBonds, if any. In fact I've shot Partitions and heavy-jacket Ballistic Tips of the same weight into dry newspaper (on e of the toughest bullet tests there is) and penetration and expansion were very similar.
One of my friends who's used the .338 Ballistic Tip a LOT since it came out in the early 1990's once called it "a Barnes X with a little bit of lead in the nose." That's a pretty fair comparison, from what I've seen in sectioning, media-testing and shooting game with heavy-jacket BT's.
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Harry Selby used a 30-06 with original Winchester Silvertips in 180gr weight with great results so I'm sure that todays 180gr Ballistic Silvertips will work even better.
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Tom,
Eileen was shooting 165-grain Fail Safes from her .30-06. I was shooting 200 Ballistic Tips and 250 Partitions from my .338. I remember now...thats the safari where I had a pinched nerve and took a schittload of percocets.... 
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Tom,
Eileen was shooting 165-grain Fail Safes from her .30-06. I was shooting 200 Ballistic Tips and 250 Partitions from my .338. I remember now...thats the safari where I had a pinched nerve and took a schittload of percocets.... lottsa excuses fer gittin' old and fergetful....just sayin'...  maddog
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A mind is a terrible thing to waste.... But Ive only wasted one! 
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Thanks John. Just glanced at the Nosler website and did not see any BTs bigger than .323 listed.
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George, I think all the bigger Ballistic Tips have become Accubonds now.
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The 200-grain .338 is now a Ballistic Silvertip, so is listed on the website under Combined Technology bullets. All the larger than .338 caliber BT's have all become Accubonds.
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Yep, thanks guys see that now. I'm looking for something different for my 350 RM after trying to get it to like the B 225-gr TSX with a couple of different powders. So far no can do.
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I have taken lots of game in Afric with 30/06 and 180 Nosler Partitions...no reason your ammo won't work. I have taken Elk, Kudu, Gemsbok, Hartebeest...etc. It worked on them and more.
Go git em!
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One of the classic combos for plains game!
If Elmer Keith had just taken a .30-06 with 180 Partitions in 1958 when he made his first safari, instead of a .333 OKH with POS 300-grain Kynoch soft-points, he would never have written than plains game is "as tough as an old gum boot." And we would have been spared generations of the same sort of BS.
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One of the classic combos for plains game!
If Elmer Keith had just taken a .30-06 with 180 Partitions in 1958 when he made his first safari, instead of a .333 OKH with POS 300-grain Kynoch soft-points, he would never have written than plains game is "as tough as an old gum boot." And we would have been spared generations of the same sort of BS. Thanks, I had a good chuckle.
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One of the classic combos for plains game!
If Elmer Keith had just taken a .30-06 with 180 Partitions in 1958 when he made his first safari, instead of a .333 OKH with POS 300-grain Kynoch soft-points, he would never have written than plains game is "as tough as an old gum boot." And we would have been spared generations of the same sort of BS. You say that as if it would have been a good thing! 
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One of the classic combos for plains game!
If Elmer Keith had just taken a .30-06 with 180 Partitions in 1958 when he made his first safari, instead of a .333 OKH with POS 300-grain Kynoch soft-points, he would never have written than plains game is "as tough as an old gum boot." And we would have been spared generations of the same sort of BS. Only to be started again by the use of Ballistic Tips! (just kidding MD, but I couldn't resist and kynochs ARE crap!)
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I have taken lots of game in Afric with 30/06 and 180 Nosler Partitions...no reason your ammo won't work. I have taken Elk, Kudu, Gemsbok, Hartebeest...etc. It worked on them and more.
Go git em! You can add me to the list of 30-06 / 180 Partitions used on zebra, kudu and eland flawlessly. Should be easy to find that load from a factory. I know Federal rolls them up... BTW: thanks again JB for bringing me up to speed on the newer BT's. I've been thinking they were not much more than deer killers ( if that)...
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J B How about THE 165 gr BT 30-06 Bullet jacket thickness?
Would the Federal Factory 30-06 165 gr. Nosler BT ammo
work for game up to ELK?
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I can tell you that current production 150 grain Balistic Tips out of a 30-06 work great on feral hogs and will go completely through a 6x6 treated cresote post.
I can not imagine that a decently hit elk would stand a chance.
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